Comparing scenes in different adaptations

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Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 9:51 am 		#1

I really just wanted to start a new thread so that I could post all these versions of the famous scene in which Sherlock Holmes and John Watson sit in a train carriage together.

The original Sidney Paget illustration from ACD's "The Adventure of Silver Blaze"


Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce in "The Hound of the Baskervilles"


David Burke and Jeremy Brett in Granada Sherlock Holmes "The Speckled Band"


Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr in Guy Ritchie's "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows"


And of course, Martin and Benedict in BBC Sherlock's "The Abominable Bride"



Are there any other scenes which can be compared across different adaptations like this?

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Posted by SusiGo
February 25, 2016 9:57 am 		#2

Thank you, this is amazing! Just some observations: 

- Please note the extreme closeness of Brett and Burke. They look as if they were going to fall in each other's lap any moment. ("I don't mind.")

- No comment on Downey and Law. 

- Our boys are actually quite far away from each other. Which may be due to the fact that this scene is not so much a cosy trip to the countryside but a man working out multiple psychological issues. 

I do not have the time but if I may propose another set - what about the Reichenbach scenes in Paget, Granada, TAB, etc.?
 

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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 10:36 am 		#3

As you wish

Sidney Paget's Reichenbach Falls illustration from ACD's "The Final Problem"


Sherlock Holmes throwing Professor Moriarty into the Falls in the Granada series



No good screencaps from Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, I'm afraid


The Reichenbach Falls scene in Sherlock: The Abominable Bride


 

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Posted by SusiGo
February 25, 2016 11:15 am 		#4

Thank you, this is very interesting. And it is fascinating to see the differences and similarities. 

I remember how shocked I was about the scene in "A Game of Shadows" because Holmes is falling in front of Watson's eyes - something which our Sherlock team did in TRF as well. Making Watson watch is of course even worse than having Watson come only afterwards. 

I also liked Holmes's peaceful expression during the fall, echoed in a way by Sherlock's wide smile in TAB. 

 

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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 11:43 am 		#5

Good idea for a thread, ukaunz.

One scene that comes to mind immediately is the scene of Watson encountering Sherlock in an opium/ drug den:





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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 12:01 pm 		#6

Of course, there is also the scene from Bruce-Partington Plans involving a corpse of the unfortunate West being placed at the top of a train carriage:




And Sherlock and John, examining the window, where this happened:


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 12:08 pm 		#7

Great examples, nakahara

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Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 12:27 pm 		#8

Another cute scene:




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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 12:29 pm 		#9

A gesture from your first picture was featured in S1:


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 9:45 pm 		#10

More good comparisons

How about this? A classic Sherlock pose.


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Posted by Yitzock
February 25, 2016 9:46 pm 		#11

Great find, ukaunz! Just one of those little details that they still paid attention to!


Clueing for looks.
 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 10:23 pm 		#12

I saw a wicked theory that if Sherlock sits normally, his deductive skills decrease by 20%... 

I´ll guess this outfit seems similar either:



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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 10:26 pm 		#13

Wow, I hadn't picked up on that one! What Granada episode is it from?

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Posted by Liberty
February 25, 2016 10:33 pm 		#14

I just wanted to say, great thread, and great examples! 

 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 10:48 pm 		#15

ukaunz wrote:

Wow, I hadn't picked up on that one! What Granada episode is it from?

Illustrious Client.

And the placement of Sherlock in the sheet in the BBC ASIB scene isn´t accidental either - he deals with illustrious client in that scene too.
 

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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 11:25 pm 		#16

In Granada The Empty House we have this cute bibliophile offering John books before he unmasks himself as Sherlock:



In The Empty Hearse, the scene is inverted - the book seller is real! And all his books retained their names, but changed into a porny trash materials in form:



In the russian version, Sherlock removed part of this disguise, then John gently removed the remainder of that:


 

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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 11:29 pm 		#17

Love it!

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Posted by nakahara
February 25, 2016 11:36 pm 		#18

Rathbone Sherlock Holmes making experiments with the fireflies and the violin sounds:



Just as Downey´s Sherlock:



BBC Sherlock just has Mycroft as his fly:

Last edited by nakahara (February 25, 2016 11:38 pm)

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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 
Posted by ukaunz
February 25, 2016 11:48 pm 		#19



That is awesome!

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Posted by nakahara
February 26, 2016 12:02 pm 		#20

In Sherlock Holmes PC game Crimes and Punishments, Sherlock investigates the vile murder of an old whale-hunter who was pinned to the wall by his own harpoon (canon case of The Black Peter):



In order to prove that only a very skilled hand could kill the man with the harpoon that way, Sherlock demonstrates that for an untrained person it is almost impossible to draw harpoon through the body smoothly with one strike. He does that by stabbing the butchered pig with this weapon repeatedly:




In BBC version we see only an aftermath of that case:

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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 


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