BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / It's now Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch CBE

**Posted by SusiGo** June 12, 2015 9:43 am

mrshouse wrote:
Folding little planes?

Thanks, lovely, this is exactly what I meant.

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 9:46 am

YIKES! Out of my mind palace...

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** June 12, 2015 9:54 am

What on earth is a CBE and how is it different from an OBE or an MBE??

**Posted by Harriet** June 12, 2015 9:58 am

It seems you haven't been awarded one yet, Boss

**Posted by SusiGo** June 12, 2015 9:58 am

There are five classes to the Order of the British Empire. CBE (Commander) is the middle one. The two classes above entitle you to carry a title like "Sir" or "Dame". So he will not become Sir Benedict.

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 10:06 am

Does anybody know when the official nominees will be announced?

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 10:08 am

Harriet wrote:
It seems you haven't been awarded one yet, Boss

Could we nominate her for creating this lovely place?

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** June 12, 2015 10:11 am

SusiGo wrote:
There are five classes to the Order of the British Empire. CBE (Commander) is the middle one. The two classes above entitle you to carry a title like "Sir" or "Dame". So he will not become Sir Benedict.

You're German and know more about it than me.

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** June 12, 2015 10:11 am

mrshouse wrote:
Harriet wrote:
It seems you haven't been awarded one yet, Boss

Could we nominate her for creating this lovely place?

I hope you're not going to threaten me with a knighthood.

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 10:12 am

But Dame Sherlock Holmes is most lovely!

**Posted by SusiGo** June 12, 2015 10:38 am

Oh, yes. Or what about Dame Sherlock Holmes-Watson?

**Posted by Ah-chie** June 12, 2015 12:02 pm

Here's a link to the official announcement of who is on the Honours List...

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/100096

As it says, the updated list will be published at 10:30 pm local time today.

The press already has the info but obviously there is a news embargo on it until the official announcement - of course some of the less ethical outfits ignored the official embargo and published bits (probably the more "click worthy" items) early.

As for detailed information about the honours there is an easily accessible web site at this link that gives a pretty complete picture if you want details...

https://www.gov.uk/honours/overview

-Val

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 12:09 pm

But it's already past the time ? Or do I get something wrong here?

**Posted by Ah-chie** June 12, 2015 12:20 pm

As far as I know it isn't 10:30 pm yet in London.

-Val

**Posted by tonnaree** June 12, 2015 1:15 pm

mrshouse wrote:
But Dame Sherlock Holmes is most lovely!

*runs through thread singing "There is nothing like a Dame" and tossing confetti*

**Posted by Lola Red** June 12, 2015 2:02 pm

SusiGo wrote:
There are five classes to the Order of the British Empire. CBE (Commander) is the middle one. The two classes above entitle you to carry a title like "Sir" or "Dame". So he will not become Sir Benedict.

But Sir Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch just has such a lovely ring to it. Maybe in a few years from now, or can you only be awarded one of there five classes in your life? I have to admit I am not terribly familiar with those kind of honours.

**Posted by mrshouse** June 12, 2015 2:14 pm

Ah-chie wrote:
As far as I know it isn't 10:30 pm yet in London.

-Val

Ooopsie....
Tiny, but not to be neglected detail...

**Posted by SusiGo** June 12, 2015 2:54 pm

Lola Red wrote:
SusiGo wrote:
There are five classes to the Order of the British Empire. CBE (Commander) is the middle one. The two classes above entitle you to carry a title like "Sir" or "Dame". So he will not become Sir Benedict.
But Sir Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch just has such a lovely ring to it. Maybe in a few years from now, or can you only be awarded one of there five classes in your life? I have to admit I am not terribly familiar with those kind of honours.

I think he can still be knighted.

**Posted by Ah-chie** June 12, 2015 2:57 pm

Lola Red wrote:
But Sir Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch just has such a lovely ring to it. Maybe in a few years from now, or can you only be awarded one of there five classes in your life? I have to admit I am not terribly familiar with those kind of honours.

There are plenty of examples of people who received a CBE in the past getting higher honours later in life. Here's one from the last batch of honours given from this year's New Years Honour List...

Under the Knights Bachelor section -

John Vincent Hurt CBE

John Hurt, in a career spanning more than fifty years, has appeared in well over 100 films and received numerous awards including BAFTAs for The Naked Civil Servant, Midnight Express and The Elephant Man and the BAFTA for Outstanding Contribution to Cinema. He was Oscar-nominated for The Elephant Man and Midnight Express, received the Golden Globe for Midnight Express, and two Evening Standard Awards including the Alexander Walker Special Award and the Best Actor Award for 3 films - The Hit, 1984 and Champions. He was awarded the inaugural Richard Harris Award for Contribution to Cinema by the British Independent Film Awards and was made a Fellow of the BFI in 2009. He is Chancellor of Norwich University of the Arts and Patron of Derby QUAD and Norwich Cinema City. He is Patron of the charity Project Harar and has hosted events for Amnesty International and NSPCC/Childline.

John Hurt was awarded his CBE in 2004 and then was knighted in the New Year honourees of this year for his contributions in drama.

-Val

**Posted by Ah-chie** June 12, 2015 4:44 pm

Confirmation that there has been a news embargo on the release of information about Benedict being awarded the CBE...

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1434106621-3/EN-Benedict+cumberbatch/strict-emb-until-22-30-benedict-cumberbatch-to-receive-a-cbe.html

As per this site the news embargo will be lifted as of 10:30 pm London time.

So it isn't a rumour any longer - it is happening.

-Val