BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it)

**Posted by REReader** February 13, 2015 2:26 am

Those numbers are very interesting--and impressive! Thanks for bringing them all, Val and SusiGo.

**Posted by miriel68** February 13, 2015 7:54 am

Ah-chie wrote:
The first time I saw the scene of BC and KK when he breaks off their marriage and thus their friendship to protect her, I thought KK's acting was a bit jarring and OTT.

Actually, it is not marriage, but engagement. I noticed that quite few people got confused about it, also among my friends.
I agree about Keira, I think this is one of her finest performance up to date and they built her arch nicely, showing how in fact Alan helped her to find her place in the world and overcome the social and mental obstacles in choosing her own way of life.

The tagline is one think I could do without in the movie, although I do see its functionality in tying up together the three time frames and also, if I remember correctly, it is an authentic quotation of something Christopher told Alan.

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 13, 2015 3:11 pm

Thanks for pointing that out miriel68 - I guess I should have added "upcoming" and then the meaning would have been clearer.

About KK's role - yes, I really enjoyed that aspect that came through loud and clear upon second viewing for me (once I could take my eyes off of BC ).

And that's interesting about the tag line quote - I didn't know that it originated from something that Christopher told Alan. But it fits absolutely, for Turing personally and for the theme of the movie. I just wished they had used it with a bit more delicate hand - the old adage still stands for me... less is more.

-Val

**Posted by miriel68** February 14, 2015 7:35 am

As I said, I agree absolutely about the tagline, especially this being quite a convoluted sentence you "hear" it even more. They use the line about violence twice, but it didn't sound so emphatic and didn't bother me.

Interestingly, I enjoyed the movie far more on my second (and, ekhm, third) viewing, when I was able to concentrate propely on film-as-film and not only on Benedict.
I watched an interview with Keira in which she said that the film took some liberties with Clarke's character from the factual point of view, but I found that the movie still captured an essential truth about her. She is brilliant, but accepts the necessity of being a nice girl among men, always demure and well-educated. This makes the break-up scene even more powerful, because we see how much she has grown and matured as a person - thanks to Alan.

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 15, 2015 3:50 am

I am not sure if this has been posted on the forum or not but The Imitation Game won the Writers Guild Award for best adapted screenplay on Saturday night. Winning this craft guild award could help in its bid for best adapted screenplay at the Oscars next Sunday.

Congrats to Graham Moore (the whole TIG team must be so proud)!

The story was reported in a live streaming blog tonight on the Hollywood Reporter site.

-Val

**Posted by miriel68** February 15, 2015 8:40 am

Yes, I saw it. A well deserved one and I do hope it bids well for Oscars, it would be extremely sad (not to say unjust) to see TIG walk out of Oscars completely empty-handed, like earlier from GG and Bafta.

**Posted by nakahara** February 15, 2015 10:59 am

Ah-chie wrote:
I am not sure if this has been posted on the forum or not but The Imitation Game won the Writers Guild Award for best adapted screenplay on Saturday night. Winning this craft guild award could help in its bid for best adapted screenplay at the Oscars next Sunday.

Congrats to Graham Moore (the whole TIG team must be so proud)!

The story was reported in a live streaming blog tonight on the Hollywood Reporter site.

-Val

Wonderful news! The Award was well deserved, I think.

**Posted by SusiGo** February 15, 2015 11:08 am

Wonderful news. Very happy to hear that. Congrats to Graham Moore and keeping fingers crossed for the Oscars.

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 15, 2015 4:00 pm

Here's a link to the moment when Graham Moore won his WGA award for TIG as best adapted screenplay last night -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYz9eyT_JfY&app=desktop

I am so happy he won! The film deserves it and Moore and the whole team behind it deserve it as well.

I hope it goes on to more acolades at the Oscars.

-Val

**Posted by miriel68** February 15, 2015 6:23 pm

I have read so many smug and malicious comments about TIG recently that I am even more happy that it has at least got some recognition, especially after frankly ridiculous award to TTOE screenplay at Bafta.

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 15, 2015 9:27 pm

Here's a interesting article about TIG that was published in Variety today -

http://variety.com/2015/artisans/awards/wga-prize-gives-11th-hour-surge-to-imitation-game-team-in-awards-marathon-1201433847/

I want to highlight a couple of passages which stood out for me -

"During campaigns, mutual admiration is de rigueur; but the affection among the “Imitation” team seems genuine and was in full force when Moore won the WGA prize for their film. After thanking his colleagues in his acceptance speech, Moore paid tribute to Turing, saying, “It is on the shoulders of his genius that we made this film.” "

and

William Goldenberg enthused about editing the sequence when Turing (Benedict Cumberbatch) begins to crack the Enigma code. Goldenberg also spoke of another scene in which the camera stays on Cumberbatch’s face for 63 seconds. He said it’s great to work with a performance that can hold a shot for so long: “One of the joys of editing is discovering when not to edit.”

Really nice and more than a bit exciting to see how the TIG team is getting the word out about Turing and just how great this film is.

-Val

**Posted by REReader** February 15, 2015 10:00 pm

Ah-chie wrote:
I am not sure if this has been posted on the forum or not but The Imitation Game won the Writers Guild Award for best adapted screenplay on Saturday night. Winning this craft guild award could help in its bid for best adapted screenplay at the Oscars next Sunday.

Congrats to Graham Moore (the whole TIG team must be so proud)!

The story was reported in a live streaming blog tonight on the Hollywood Reporter site.

-Val

Wonderful!

**Posted by SusiGo** February 15, 2015 10:04 pm

And here an official document of shame:

http://theturingpoint.tumblr.com/post/111101053901/fkukso-la-burocracia-del-odio-registro-oficial-de

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 16, 2015 4:59 pm

The Imitation Game picked up another award for best adapted screenplay on Sunday night. Congrats again to Graham Moore and all The Imitation Game team!

The film won a Satellite Award for Best Adapted Screenplay, competing against 5 other movies that included Gone Girl, Inherent Vice, The Theory of Everything, American Sniper and Wild.

Here's a link to where the announcement of all the Satellite winners was presented...

http://www.thewrap.com/satellite-awards-complete-winners-list/

In case someone isn't familiar with these awards, here's some info on them from Wikipeadia -

The Satellite Awards are annual awards given by the International Press Academy that are commonly noted in entertainment industry journals and blogs. The awards were originally known as the Golden Satellite Awards. The award ceremonies take place each year at the InterContinental Hotel in Century City, Los Angeles.

They have been going since 1997.

Also of note :
Sherlock was also nominated for a Satellite (in the Television category for Best Miniseries Made for Television) but didn't win.

It did look like it was a fairly wide-ranging category - nine nominated entrants in total and it included such programmes as The Roosevelts: An Intimate History (which I saw and thought was very wonderful) so it obviously was mixed bag of fictional and non-fictional stories.

-Val

**Posted by This Is The Phantom Lady** February 16, 2015 5:56 pm

It's really good to see this film win some awards! In my heart it deserves all of them

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 17, 2015 2:26 am

Here is a short interview with M. Tyldum on the International Business Times site.

http://www.ibtimes.com/imitation-game-director-morten-tyldum-talks-benedict-cumberbatch-sundays-oscars-more-1818006

One of the more interesting aspects he talks about is how everyone on the movie, the cast, crew and Tyldum himself, worked for a fraction of what they normally would have done to do the film "because it was a passion project.".

Another point that Tyldum told about was that BC's dad Timothy went to the same school as Turing did.

-Val

**Posted by Ah-chie** February 19, 2015 4:07 pm

Here is a short featurette about the making of TIG.

Enjoy!

-Val

**Posted by Russell** February 19, 2015 8:00 pm

SusiGo wrote:
And here an official document of shame:

http://theturingpoint.tumblr.com/post/111101053901/fkukso-la-burocracia-del-odio-registro-oficial-de

Wow….

**Posted by ukaunz** February 26, 2015 12:31 pm

I was thrilled to finally see TIG today, on my own. I definitely needed my tissues and dark glasses. I couldn't stop crying as I drove home from the theatre (probably a bit not good now that I think of it, might have had an accident) and I still get teary when I think about it or read about it.

What a sublime film. I can't do justice to it, I am not good at putting my feelings and thoughts into words, you guys have said it already anyway This thread has been wonderful to read, it has added so much to my initial impressions. I haven't been able to look at all the links yet, but thank you to everyone who posted them. I wish I could go see the movie again, but I will probably have to wait until the DVD is available.

I have to say, I really think TIG is more deserving of the best motion picture award than Birdman. I just did not get that film, I found it boring for the most part. I'll try not to be bitter though

Last edited by ukaunz (February 26, 2015 12:37 pm)

**Posted by Ah-chie** March 3, 2015 11:12 pm

Here's some good news -

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-milestone-imitation-game-778902

The Imitation Game hit a milestone today when the latest calculations were tallied for global box office - over $200 million world wide!

It is just shy of $87 million in the US/Canadian domestic markets (in the next few days it should surpass it) and has reached $115 million internationally (and counting).

This is wonderful news!

This means so much in the effort to reach a wider audience in able to spread the story of Turing and help in the current endeavour to see that a pardon is given all of those who suffered because of prejudice.

-Val