BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / Baby Watson (spoilers!)

**Posted by besleybean** August 6, 2014 9:50 pm

Actually in this one instance you are not.
I am a non-Johnlocker and I want John back in 221B.

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**Posted by mrshouse** August 6, 2014 9:56 pm

221 b is sacrosanct.

**Posted by besleybean** August 6, 2014 9:59 pm

It is.

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 6:40 am

mrshouse wrote:
221 b is sacrosanct.

Yes, and I would like to see it restored to its former glory after having been defiled by Magnussen verbally as well as … you know and by the harrowing scene with John and Mary in HLV.

**Posted by La Jolie** August 7, 2014 7:02 am

mrshouse wrote:
why did she worry soo much? She had left her past behind at that point, she thought herself safe. Her life did not worry her up to this point. Does this only say: Well, it changes the fear of being detected again bc a helpless being will be involved? Is this all behind it?

Don't forget that just a couple of hours before that deduction, in the "telegramms", CAM has shown his hand. I think Mary knows exactly what is behind that message. It's mean and cruel of CAM to pick her wedding day to reveal what he holds over her, but then that's what he's like! From that point onwards Mary knows she's not safe any more, and to know it's not just her but a child as well is reason enough to panic.

And by the way, as any woman who got pregnant before she had really planned it will confirm, that alone is enough to make you panic more than a little. It's a huge responsibility, it turns your life upside down, it also ties you down to home and hearth, it's a big, big thing to get used to. So I think there is nothing unnatural in her panicking at the sudden revelation, even without her past and CAM.

Btw, it would be interesting to know in this context, do the creators/writers of the show have any children?

**Posted by mrshouse** August 7, 2014 7:11 am

La Jolie, as far as I know Steven and Sue have a couple of children, the boy playing young Sherlock. Mark and Ian not.

**Posted by besleybean** August 7, 2014 7:43 am

Steve and Sue's youngest son Louis has appeared in Sherlock twice. He was the countdown voice of the child in GG.
The older Josh wants to be a journo, I think.

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**Posted by SolarSystem** August 7, 2014 7:57 am

SusiGo wrote:
mrshouse wrote:
221 b is sacrosanct.
Yes, and I would like to see it restored to its former glory after having been defiled by Magnussen verbally as well as … you know and by the harrowing scene with John and Mary in HLV.

I totally agree.
221B just hasn't been the same in S3 in comparison to S1/2. 221B only feels right when John is there - and not just for a visit.

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 8:03 am

Yes, definitely. It really pained me to hear it called a dump and dirty and then on top it became the place of that scene I can still not watch without getting very upset.

**Posted by SolarSystem** August 7, 2014 8:33 am

It just didn't feel like anybody's home anymore. I doubt that Sherlock can feel at home there when the most important person in his life is missing...

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 8:36 am

Which brings us back to the very symbolic chairs ...

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** August 7, 2014 8:58 am

BreathingIsBoring wrote:
Sherlock wouldn't make John sleep on the sofa. In all likelihood, it'd be Sherlock sleeping on the sofa if that unlikely scenario were to happen.

John's bedroom is probably the same/a little smaller than Sherlock's, as Sherlock's is the master bedroom and logically the largest. So, they could probably cram Mary and John into John's like a hotel room, but it'd still be rather uncomfortable. Plus, their sitting room and kitchen are a bit crowded with Sherlock's things; acceptable for parties, but not really for living.

Well, like you said, Sherlock's room is the largest and has the en suite, so to me it makes sense for Mary, John and the baby to sleep in there and for Sherlock to take John's old room upstairs.

Buuuuuuut that won't happen because Mary is going to die (I think).

**Posted by mrshouse** August 7, 2014 9:05 am

Oh, gosh, what are you all talking about? " Sherlock" or "Dallas"?? And Moriarty showing up at the end of the season under the shower like Bobby Ewing?

**Posted by SolarSystem** August 7, 2014 9:30 am

Oh yes, please...! A shower scene!

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 9:42 am

Yes, that could be nice. Very nice. And this time they will not cut it like they did with STID.

**Posted by mrshouse** August 7, 2014 9:44 am

Sheriarty????Eeeek....

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 9:50 am

mrshouse wrote:
Sheriarty????Eeeek....

God, no! I was thinking of Sherlock and John.

**Posted by besleybean** August 7, 2014 9:58 am

How the heck did we..?
Oh, never mind!

**Posted by SusiGo** August 7, 2014 9:59 am

Sorry, off topic.

**Posted by mrshouse** August 7, 2014 10:05 am

Yes. Either it's the problem with the baby again or we move to THE thread