zeratul wrote:

Hera wrote:

if Mary dies in childbirth

That would be so Star Wars...

Moriarty is actually Sherlock's father and Mary is his sister. It's crystal clear now.

Last edited by Hera (January 16, 2014 1:23 pm)

I don't think she has any connection with Moriarty. That would be just too much, wouldn't it?  The "What Mary really is and does and knows"-thing has been done. In an awesome way, if you ask me, btw. Her having a connection to Moriarty might be repetitive.

Last edited by Hera (January 16, 2014 1:34 pm)

mrshouse wrote:

Hey, can we discuss about mary saying " oh god yes" when john asked her if mary watson was good enough a name for her?
Moftiss wants to destroy the mother of johnlock moments!

Maybe it was unintentional and they just like that phrase, because it emphasises "Yes" so much.  ... Or maybe it was intentional and they wanted to show that Mary wants to be with John as much as John wants to solve crimes. Maybe both. 

Anyway, I like that moment, because it telling us so much about her.

Last edited by Hera (January 16, 2014 1:46 pm)

Hera wrote:

I don't think she has any connection with Moriarty. That would be just too much, wouldn't it?  The "What Mary really is and does and knows"-thing has been done. In an awesome way, if you ask me, btw. Her having a connection to Moriarty might be repetitive.

My feelings to. They stretched it a bit in HLV. The four chief players at the wedding all end up in CAMs office at a later date. CAM wants a hold over Mary so he can get to Mycroft; whose boss is Lady Smallwood; and the reason Sherlock is there in the office is to retrieve letters belonging to Lady Smallwood. 
So basically when Mycroft warned Sherlock to stay away from CAM  Sherlock was in the employ of Mycrofts boss; Lady Smallwood.
As you say it worked well this time; but any more plots based on similar connections involving Mary would just be to much.


 

silverblaze wrote:

Smallwood isn't Mycroft's boss or it would indeed be very silly. Mycroft's decision was his own. I don't think he answers to anyone in particular, but to get what he wants he has to play the game. 

He clearly needs her authority to do what he did with Sherlock; and at that meeting refers to his collegue (M). The only politician; other than the Prime Minister, who MI6 is answerable to is the Foreign Secretary. 
But I do agree with you. Mycroft plays the game and has an undefined role covering all security service matters.
 

Hera wrote:

I don't think she has any connection with Moriarty. That would be just too much, wouldn't it?  The "What Mary really is and does and knows"-thing has been done. In an awesome way, if you ask me, btw. Her having a connection to Moriarty might be repetitive.

agreed. But if a fair guess if you think that she was a hired assassin and Moriarty really has a thing for those

I think they should write MF out. 

mrshouse wrote:

Aytoun wrote:

Mrs. Watson wrote:

Rest assured that it will be in the most painful way possible 
 

Maybe, but most of us thought that she wouldn't survive series 3 and she did. My guess is that if she does go (and I hope she does) it will be something to do with a reveal about her true identity. I just don't believe that her past went up in smoke with that memory stick.

Oh god yes, please get rid of her!

Oh, yes, please, please, please!!!!
It doesn't even matter how!!!

I lean toward wanting an extremely dramatic redemtion for Mary.  As in sacrificing herself to save John and/or Sherlock.  Of course there's still the problem of the baby.

Fine, I move this into this thread:

Mary was a killer, stopped it for whatever reason and is pregnant. In S4 she may as well stay at home, take care of the baby and let John and Sherlock be "sexy". 
Mrs Hudson is kind of a badass, too, but never joins them during their adventures.
I don't understand why people don't want Mary along anymore when nobody really can know, yet, what Mofftiss will do with her!? IMO right now it is NOT a trio. So what's your problem??