Schmiezi wrote:

In general, for me wedding stories fall into the same category as stories with them having children: simply something I don't need when reading Johnlock.

Exactly!
Although I have to say that kidfic doesn't work for me at all, whereas a wedding is more or less okay as long as there is something in the story that makes a marriage believable, maybe even a logical step (like some of you already mentioned). But I can gladly do without it in most cases.

Ormond Sacker wrote:

(N.B. Forgive a poor confused Continetal European, but isn't marriage between two people of the same sex legal in the UK? I thought they'd voted that one through? Much to the dismay of the Anglican Church.)

Wiki says that the law was passed in July 2013 and is expected to be brought into force by mid-2014. Now there is only civil partnership in the UK.

Mattlocked wrote:

I watched Part 2 of Stephen Fry "Out there" yesterday and I think he confirmed what Pav posted above.
This is a bit off topic, but I think you should take a look at the little snippet from yesterday here:
(It is quite "interesting"  )
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01jtqcb
Stephen meets Russian politician Vitaly Milonov who has introduced a law in Russia which bans 'promotion of homosexuality'.

 
Thanks for the link - that's "interesting" indeed. A reminder that the real world is often not so idyllic.

Ormond Sacker wrote:

tonnaree wrote:

Wholocked wrote:

I think it's in character when it happens because Sherlock cracks the shits about not being allowed in John's hospital room. But tbh I can't see either of them particularly caring about 'legitimising' their relationship.

Totally agree with this assesment.
I'm rereading one of my favorites right now and John is the one that brings up marriage because he's not allowed in the hospital with Sherlock and waits hours not even knowing if he's alive or not.  They don't have a big wedding and don't make a big deal of it.  Both of them agree that it makes sense for them agree that it's a practical thing to do because simply because of the legal aspects.  

I agree, the legal aspect is the only reason I can see for Sherlock to propose marriage. I generally find other reasons too OOC for him. I have read the total sum of one fic where his reason for proposing is different where I found it believable.

(N.B. Forgive a poor confused Continetal European, but isn't marriage between two people of the same sex legal in the UK? I thought they'd voted that one through? Much to the dismay of the Anglican Church.)

For some reason I do find the "fear of John leaving him" reasoning to be valid and reasonably in character...but I think my "in character" radar has been completely corrupted. I'm going to have to purge my brain and re-watch season 1 and 2 to remember what actually IS in character and in canon for the show!!!

Wholocked wrote:

.......but I think my "in character" radar has been completely corrupted. I'm going to have to purge my brain and re-watch season 1 and 2 to remember what actually IS in character and in canon for the show!!!

I've been sick at home for some days and could read a lot. I almost drowned in fanfiction, so finally I decided to watch ASiP and TBB. Now I'm back in "reality".   

Oops. You're right, I think. But that day I was in panic and it was simply the first thing I could grab.   

Well, in TBB John was dating Sarah. Just to remind you.
(Fine, at least he tried  )

Basically, I like FanFic that explores the relationship of John and Sherlock (romantic or else), I especially like POV-fanfic and fanfic that is heavily based on text messages. I also enjoy it if the genre is either angst or humor or the like.

I don't like too graphic porn, especially if this seems to be the center of the story, I don't like violence and I don't like it if one of the characters is severe ill (why are there so many cancer fanfics????) or dies.

By the way one question:
my native language is German and to those of you who didn't know, the word 'angst' is the German word for 'fear'. I have never seen it in an English text before I discovered that it seems to be a fanfic-genre. So is there any meaning of the English 'angst' which is not entirely covered by the word 'fear' or what could be the reason I have never come across this word as being part of the English vocabulary?

Not a native speaker but according to Oxford English Dictionary (and if they don't know who would? ) angst is defined as: "a feeling of axiety and worry about a situation, or about your life".
They also point out that it's a loan word from German

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tonnaree wrote:

Interesting.  I never new that Angst was fear in German. 

Here's a question.  How do you feel about the Asexual Sherlock trope?

I don't particularly like it.  Don't see Sherlock as asexual, just distracted.  There are moments when you can see there's a lot of repressed passion in him.  I just think that it's been years since he found anyone interesting enough to take time away from the work.

Thoughts?  Opinions?

First of all, it'd be SUCH a waste! *sighs, gets distracted by fantasy about undressing Sherlock*

On a more serious note: I don't think he's asexual because I agree with you that there is a certain amount of repressed passion in him; his violin play for example is betraying that, and also the composing. Also, coming to think of it, the commitment with which he throws himself into things- be it a case, be it the search for hidden cigarettes.
In my opinion, he strictly doesn't want to allow feelings to get in the way of his work, not even with Irene Adler, though he clearly does find her interesting.