BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / Moftiss Copenhagen Interview

**Posted by Fetchinketch** August 19, 2012 5:36 pm

Can't stop thinking about what Mark said, when they were discussing Moriarty suicide theories. He suggested that he really did commit suicide and suggested that he was a suicide bomber. Interesting, because Osama bin Laden never strapped on a bomb vest, he controlled and manipulated others into doing it.

And the cabbie said "...but you're only a man, and they are so much more."

Was Moriarty just a pawn of a much larger network? Or was the man on the roof not really Moriarty at all?

That's all I have so far, but thought I would throw it out.

**Posted by Mattlocked** August 19, 2012 5:49 pm

I think I know from ACD's "The Empty House" there must be at least a second guy who worked together (?) with Moriarty.
But there are people in this forum who know much more about the canon, so...

**Posted by Lupin** August 19, 2012 6:18 pm

Pretty much all you need to (and all there is to know) about Moriarty is in The Final Problem. Sherlock describes him as being at the center of a web of crime, always pulling the strings but leaving no trace of his involvement in any act of crime he orchestrates. Holmes spends months pulling on these threads to gather enough evidence to bring down Moriarty, which leads to The Final Problem. Moriarty is at the center of a criminal network, with Colonel Morran as his right hand man (The Empty House).

**Posted by Mattlocked** August 19, 2012 6:28 pm

Oh yeesss............ I forgot the SPIDER Sherlock talked about. I really have to watch the 6 episodes another time. Too much empty corners in my mind palace.

**Posted by Fetchinketch** August 19, 2012 7:25 pm

My point is that the spider would not be the suicide bomber.

**Posted by Davina** August 19, 2012 8:24 pm

Not that he WAS a suicide bomber, rather that he had the psychological makeup of a suicide bomber i.e. he was prepared to kill himself without a second thought if necessary. Osama Bin Laden did not have the psychological makeup of a suicide bomber but he knew how to manipulate those who did.

**Posted by Fetchinketch** August 19, 2012 8:38 pm

Davina- Yes, good call.

**Posted by kazza474** August 20, 2012 2:45 am

Phewww, thank heavens for Davina. I was reading through this shaking my head "That's not what was said".

Yes, all that was meant was that he was of a similar mindset. The value of ; life is lost on Moriarty. He only sees its value as being another commodity to make deals with, another object to be used as bait, another possession to be thrown away at will. This is how a suicide bomber and more importantly those who control the suicide bombers think.

There's no hint that Moriarty was not at the top of food chain in his organisation. He was the spider alright.

See how misreading something or putting the wrong meaning to something sparks off thinking along the wrong tangent? There's heaps of things like this eg "I prefer to text". But I will leave those for another time.

**Posted by besleybean** October 7, 2012 12:06 pm

You have me intrigued now!