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July 31, 2013 5:23 am  #41


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

I have to agree with what a lot of you guys have already said: it's John I feel so damn sorry for and who makes me cry over and over again when I watch TRF.
Throughout the scene on the rooftop I basically always hold my breath and yes, there probably are some little tears as well. When I saw that scene for the first time I suppose I was just gaping at the screen the whole time because I couldn't believe what I was about to see. And yes, I know that in the very first scene John tells us that Sherlock is dead, but hey... I sort of thought that it was a bad joke or something.
Anyway, what really makes me cry like mad every time is John at the cemetary... "I was so alone...", need I say more?
Oh, maybe this: This Youtube fan video kills me again and again - you probably all know it, it's definitely my favourite video there when it comes to 'feels'. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRdr9kmeryc

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August 16, 2013 4:59 pm  #42


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

I knew that Sherlock was going to "fall" but he wasn't going to die because Mark (it was Mark, wasn't it?) had given those clues (Adler, Hound, Reichenbach) and having read the canon several times, I knew he survived the "fall". That said, I was so NOT prepared for this episode. 

The first time I watched it (a few hours after it aired in the UK) I was so excited that my main emotions were eagerness and shock. I think that the hardest part to watch in that moment was Sherlock(?)'s body on the street after he jumped. I was like "what the hell?!". I thought we were going to have to wait until series 3 to see that Sherlock had survived. So when I saw him at the very end I felt really really happy. However...

I have watched this episode (all the episodes) many times after that and every time I watch it Martin's performance makes me cry. He is so brilliant in this episode. He is always great as John but in this episode he really shines. The scene at the cemetery breaks my heart. His pain is so deep and so raw that my heart literally hurts. I know he was nominated for a BAFTA for this series but I still feel that he didn't got all the recognition he deserves for his performance. He was beyond brilliant, especially in this episode. 

The second most emotional part in this episode (for me) it's the conversation right before Sherlock jumps. Both Martin and Benedict are just perfect. Are Sherlock's tears real? I want to think they were. That even if he planned a way to survive still it is very hard for him to say goodbye to his only real friend, disappoiting him and maybe not knowing if he is going to see him again. John's fear when he realizes that Sherlock is going to jump and the horror of seeing him dead and broken is also perfectly performed. I get more emotional every time I watch it. 

I would also like to mention a third scene that is especially moving and that is the conversation between Sherlock and Molly:

MOLLY: You’re a bit like my dad. He’s dead.
(She closes her eyes, embarrassed.)
MOLLY: No, sorry.
SHERLOCK: Molly, please don’t feel the need to make conversation. It’s really not your area.
(Molly cringes but continues.)
MOLLY: When he was ... dying, he was always cheerful; he was lovely – except when he thought no-one could see. I saw him once. He looked sad.
SHERLOCK (sternly): Molly ...
MOLLY: You look sad ... (she glances towards John) ... when you think he can’t see you.
(Sherlock’s eyes lift from the microscope and drift towards John who is looking through papers on the other side of the lab some distance away, unaware of the conversation. Sherlock turns his head and looks at Molly.)
MOLLY: Are you okay?
(He opens his mouth but she interrupts before he can speak.)
MOLLY: And don’t just say you are, because I know what that means, looking sad when you think no-one can see you.
SHERLOCK: You can see me.
MOLLY: I don’t count.
(Sherlock blinks and really looks at her, possibly for the first time since he has known her.)
MOLLY: What I’m trying to say is that, if there’s anything I can do, anything you need, anything at all, you can have me.
(She flinches and looks away briefly.)
MOLLY: No, I just mean ... I mean if there’s anything you need ...
(She shakes her head.)
MOLLY: It’s fine.
(She turns away. Sherlock looks shaken.)
SHERLOCK: What-what-what could I need from you?
MOLLY (turning back to him): Nothing. (She shrugs.) I dunno. You could probably say thank you, actually.
(She nods nervously but firmly. The side of Sherlock’s mouth twitches as if it doesn’t know how to say the words.)
SHERLOCK (hesitantly): ... Thank you.

I mean, there is so much insight in Molly's words. She has truly observed Sherlock and seen way beyond anybody else maybe beyond Sherlock's own perception of himself. I truly love this part. I think it's Sherlock's equivalent to the beautiful quote mentioned by Fetchinketch, one of my favorites quotes from the canon. 

*** Transcript taken from Ariane DeVere's blog

 

August 16, 2013 5:03 pm  #43


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

She reads him like a book.
Sherlock knows it and is stunned.


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August 16, 2013 5:17 pm  #44


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

I especially love Sherlock's broken "You." when Molly asks him what he needs. 


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August 16, 2013 5:19 pm  #45


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

Yep.


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August 16, 2013 5:34 pm  #46


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

Well, of course I knew Sherlock would survive the fall (because I know the canon and because when I began to watch the series I already knew that a new season is about to be filmed http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png
). Still, it was heart wrenching). Martin Freeman's perfomance, of course, but also the suffocating atmosphere of the second half of the episode and Sherlock becoming more and more hunted animal, outmanoveured by Moriarty and KNOWING it. His face, from the moment of the little girl's scream is kind of a mask of frozen terror and desperation, his occasional outbursts (with John "don't you see...", later in Kitty's flat "stop it") show the depth of his helplessness. The conversation with Molly, rooftop... yes, I know we will discover he had a plan and he was not as powerless as he seemed, but still it was a journey to hell for Sherlock and BC conveyed it superbly.

 

August 16, 2013 7:19 pm  #47


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

Can't say I cried at all...but I did swell up a bit inside the first time I watched it.  After that, it was a mystery to be solved


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August 16, 2013 7:40 pm  #48


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

The first time I watched it, I had no idea what would happen, but of course knowing what happened at Reichenbach in the canon I suspected he wouldn't really die. I did find it painful to Watch though, because of John's pain but because also of everyone believing Sherlock was a fraud and bad-mouthing him.

 

August 16, 2013 9:05 pm  #49


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

miriel68 wrote:

Well, of course I knew Sherlock would survive the fall (because I know the canon and because when I began to watch the series I already knew that a new season is about to be filmed http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png
). Still, it was heart wrenching). Martin Freeman's perfomance, of course, but also the suffocating atmosphere of the second half of the episode and Sherlock becoming more and more hunted animal, outmanoveured by Moriarty and KNOWING it. His face, from the moment of the little girl's scream is kind of a mask of frozen terror and desperation, his occasional outbursts (with John "don't you see...", later in Kitty's flat "stop it") show the depth of his helplessness. The conversation with Molly, rooftop... yes, I know we will discover he had a plan and he was not as powerless as he seemed, but still it was a journey to hell for Sherlock and BC conveyed it superbly.

You thought Sherlock was terrified of Moriarty and his spider's web? I never saw that. I just saw him as more and more determined to a) get Moriarty, once and for all, b) protect John, Mrs. H, et al, and c) get Moriarty's organization off their backs and eventually eliminated.  He seemed surprised by some of Moriarty's antics (the IOU in the windows across the street from the Yard, Moriarty as cab driver, Moriarty as Richard Brook in Kitty's flat, etc), but also grudgingly admiring of all of it. I don't think Sherlock gets desperate or terrified-- always intrigued, always trying to beat the system and everyone in it. always thinking everything to death, never wanting to make mistakes or miss anything, but I don't think he particularly cares a fig for his own safety.

 

August 16, 2013 9:07 pm  #50


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

I agree.
He cares for his friends, not himself.


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August 19, 2013 12:50 pm  #51


Re: Why do people find this episode so emotional/hard to watch?

ancientsgate wrote:

  I don't think Sherlock gets desperate or terrified-- always intrigued, always trying to beat the system and everyone in it. always thinking everything to death, never wanting to make mistakes or miss anything, but I don't think he particularly cares a fig for his own safety.

No, it is definitely not my impression from the episode and if it were so, I would find its emotional appeal much diminished. It is true Sherlock doesn't care much about his safety and he is not exactly terrified of Moriarty's spider web. But what Moriarty does is not a "clean" fight: he aims to "burn" Sherlock, to find how he can hurt him. There are hints about it, of course, at the end of GG and in the RF when he pays him a visit. M. knows that S. has "heart" and he threatens not him, but his friends and his relationship with them. The most terrifying thing for Sherlock is not risking his life, but seeing his few friends (Watson!) doubting him. Also, being ridiculised as a fake or a freud (he has a quite big ego, after all). And yes, I think he IS terrified, even if it will be probably revealed that he figured it out how Moriarty will proceed to destroy him. His face at the police station, when he hears Donavan and Lestrade talking changes dramatically: he realizes he is already trapped into Moriarty's sticky web. And watch him in the cab: he doesn't fake his facial expression, why should he? There is sadness, terror and then repugnance on his face. Beautifully done, mr Cumberbatch!

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