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sj4iy · August 1, 2013 4:07 pm

Better picture:

tobeornot221b · August 1, 2013 4:15 pm

Swanpride wrote:
I don't either...but Sherlock in Disguise makes sense, considering The Empty House.

Sherlock in disguise even makes sense in "The Adventure of C.A. Milverton":
"...( Sherlock Holmes) sprang to his feet and passed into his bedroom. A little later a rakish young workman, with a goatee beard and a swaggger, lit his clay pipe at the lamp before descending into the street."..."'It was a most necessary step. I am a plumber with a rising business, Escott, by name.'"

sj4iy · August 1, 2013 4:31 pm

Some people on twitter seem to think he has a drug habit again, but I don't believe that at all. Definitely not enough to become a hobo.

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sj4iy · August 1, 2013 4:48 pm

Swanpride wrote:
The writers once said that they decided early on not make a "thing" of his drug habit, so I doubt it.

That was my thinking, as well.

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kittykat · August 1, 2013 4:57 pm

They have to be very careful with things like that on TV, the drug thing. Let's say there was a scene like that in a future episode, they would have to place it so that it occurs after the 9pm watershed, I think. And even so, there's a chance that some idiot would make a complaint, saying that they're glamourising drug abuse on TV. They wouldn't take that risk.

sj4iy · August 1, 2013 5:06 pm

kittykat wrote:
They have to be very careful with things like that on TV, the drug thing. Let's say there was a scene like that in a future episode, they would have to place it so that it occurs after the 9pm watershed, I think. And even so, there's a chance that some idiot would make a complaint, saying that they're glamourising drug abuse on TV. They wouldn't take that risk.

Well, Sherlock Holmes didn't have a drug problem. He did the same drugs that people of his day did. Sure, he has experimented a bit, but they weren't habitual. This Sherlock also does that as well...he smokes, has dabbled in the past, but his real addiction is being engaged at all times. So I hate when people start talking about Holmes of any era as a drug addict...because he wasn't.

kittykat · August 1, 2013 5:41 pm

sj4iy wrote:
kittykat wrote:
They have to be very careful with things like that on TV, the drug thing. Let's say there was a scene like that in a future episode, they would have to place it so that it occurs after the 9pm watershed, I think. And even so, there's a chance that some idiot would make a complaint, saying that they're glamourising drug abuse on TV. They wouldn't take that risk.
Well, Sherlock Holmes didn't have a drug problem. He did the same drugs that people of his day did. Sure, he has experimented a bit, but they weren't habitual. This Sherlock also does that as well...he smokes, has dabbled in the past, but his real addiction is being engaged at all times. So I hate when people start talking about Holmes of any era as a drug addict...because he wasn't.

I know what you're saying, but there are people out there who just like to complain about stuff.

SilverMoonDragonB · August 1, 2013 5:45 pm

sj4iy wrote:
Better picture:

Is it just me or does he look ridiculously sexy wearing sweats?

besleybean · August 1, 2013 5:46 pm

He looks sexy in anything...or nothing.

sj4iy · August 1, 2013 5:51 pm

Heh

SilverMoonDragonB · August 1, 2013 6:00 pm

besleybean wrote:
He looks sexy in anything...or nothing.

Very true

SusiGo · August 1, 2013 6:12 pm

kittykat wrote:
sj4iy wrote:
kittykat wrote:
They have to be very careful with things like that on TV, the drug thing. Let's say there was a scene like that in a future episode, they would have to place it so that it occurs after the 9pm watershed, I think. And even so, there's a chance that some idiot would make a complaint, saying that they're glamourising drug abuse on TV. They wouldn't take that risk.
Well, Sherlock Holmes didn't have a drug problem. He did the same drugs that people of his day did. Sure, he has experimented a bit, but they weren't habitual. This Sherlock also does that as well...he smokes, has dabbled in the past, but his real addiction is being engaged at all times. So I hate when people start talking about Holmes of any era as a drug addict...because he wasn't.
I know what you're saying, but there are people out there who just like to complain about stuff.

I seem to remember that Canon Watson was quite worried about the cocaine habit. Maybe it wasn't criminal in those days but I'm not sure if it was a socially accepted behaviour either. Honestly, I'm sometimes really fed up with all the exaggerated correctness going on. Do we really always have to subject any story to a moral check-up? It doesn't apply to books, so why do TV programmes have to be checked and cross-checked if they conform to these rules? I wouldn't want to see a drug habit glorified but why not show it as a problem a character might have?
Sorry, rant over.

sj4iy · August 1, 2013 6:21 pm

SusiGo wrote:
kittykat wrote:
sj4iy wrote:

Well, Sherlock Holmes didn't have a drug problem. He did the same drugs that people of his day did. Sure, he has experimented a bit, but they weren't habitual. This Sherlock also does that as well...he smokes, has dabbled in the past, but his real addiction is being engaged at all times. So I hate when people start talking about Holmes of any era as a drug addict...because he wasn't.
I know what you're saying, but there are people out there who just like to complain about stuff.

I seem to remember that Canon Watson was quite worried about the cocaine habit. Maybe it wasn't criminal in those days but I'm not sure if it was a socially accepted behaviour either. Honestly, I'm sometimes really fed up with all the exaggerated correctness going on. Do we really always have to subject any story to a moral check-up? It doesn't apply to books, so why do TV programmes have to be checked and cross-checked if they conform to these rules? I wouldn't want to see a drug habit glorified but why not show it as a problem a character might have?
Sorry, rant over.

I have no problem with them showing a drug habit as a problem...I'm about as non-PC as possible. But I don't think that it's really part of Holmes' character, was what I was trying to say (probably badly, though). Sherlock was an independent man before John came into his life...he's not going to fall apart completely when John moves out- it just makes no sense. What does make sense would be him in disguise. Basically, I was lamenting how people jump to conclusions

Sherlock Holmes · August 1, 2013 7:24 pm

tobeornot221b wrote:
Swanpride wrote:
I don't either...but Sherlock in Disguise makes sense, considering The Empty House.
Sherlock in disguise even makes sense in "The Adventure of C.A. Milverton":
"...( Sherlock Holmes) sprang to his feet and passed into his bedroom. A little later a rakish young workman, with a goatee beard and a swaggger, lit his clay pipe at the lamp before descending into the street."..."'It was a most necessary step. I am a plumber with a rising business, Escott, by name.'"

YES ^^^^^^ It's nothing to do with drugs or whatever anyone's saying on Twitter. They've just announced the new bad guy is going to be Charles Augustus Magnussen. He's in the last episode and has been seen on set. So they're obviously doing the Charles Augustus Milverton story, which involves Sherlock being in disguise, with facial hair.

Sherlock Holmes · August 1, 2013 7:24 pm

P.S. He gets engaged too.

besleybean · August 1, 2013 7:26 pm

I love the way she just casually throws these things in but yes, I recall the story now...he uses the poor girl.

Sherlock Holmes · August 1, 2013 7:35 pm

Watson is suitably outraged over it and Holmes is all just like "yeah yeah whatever, we're gonna go break into his house now and you're not coming with me," and Watson's all like "oh yes I am" *gets out balaclavas and house breaking tools*. And then they hold hands behind a curtain. It's a beautiful moment.

besleybean · August 1, 2013 7:37 pm

Sob.

besleybean · August 1, 2013 7:54 pm

Do we know he's even in?

SusiGo · August 1, 2013 8:00 pm

Not for sure. But he's quite an important character in The Empty House so I suppose they will include him one way or the other.