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Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
We know Sherlock survived (or there wouldn't be a series 3); but is there any chance (no matter how small); that Jim also survived?
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
No.
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- beekeeper
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Word of God says no
I'm not sure I wanted him to. I'll be honest, there have been better Moriatys IMO. I really like the one in the Michael Kurland book and in the House of Silk. A villain, but a principled one.
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- anjaH_alias
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
No.
- tobeornot221b
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
No - why would he? Finally, he won a Bafta.
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
I love Andrew as Moriarty. So I'm hoping for a flashback or something.
But survived? Impossible.
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- anjaH_alias
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Flashbacks will come, I am also nearly sure about that.
- SusiGo
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Flashback(s) yes, but I'm sure he's dead. His killing himself to make Sherlock kill himself was in character. I don't think they'd resurrect both characters but will tackle other stories. There's so much material to draw from.
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- beekeeper
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Also there is the Moriaty thing that happens where every time there is a crime, its Moriaty. That gets kind of dull
He did die in the books when he was meant to , I don't think there's any suggestion, even in fanfic like Michael Kurland's books. that he survived.
I think I just didn't like the idea that he was an out of control psychopath, because at the end of the day I don't think someone like that would have gone as far as he did. I prefer the more restrained, more principled, versions of Moriaty.
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Spoiler! That´s a tumblr foto going around right now, I unfortunately read about that but till now I didn´t see it...
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
myrarobles,
would you please delete the photo right now. There are people who don't want to see this picture. We want to keep the forum free from Spoilers.
- Davina
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
I have deleted the photo. Again please don't post spoilers everyone. If we want o see them we can go on Tumblr etc. 
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
I also saw it, and asked Boss to change the name of this thread so I don't stumble in here by accident.
Nice of her that she did it right away
However, this picture could be a photomontage...
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- Davina
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
It could indeed. It may be better to post the link with a spoiler warning attached. That way I can avoid spoilers too but can still Moderate.
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- MysteriaSleuthbedder
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
saturnR wrote:
We know Sherlock survived (or there wouldn't be a series 3); but is there any chance (no matter how small); that Jim also survived?
No, but I am banking on the flashback, just as Sherlock Holmes explains everything to Watson in the Canon, I imagine Sherlock will tell John how it all went down.
But I don't think we've seen the last Moriarty, either. (Jim is not Moriarty) The Moriarty brothers are just too big a part of the Canon and Sherlockiana to leave out.
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
UH-oh.
Be warned.
Super-spoiler pics here from "The Empty Hearse" shoot. But very on-topic.
- Marheri
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
I don't think so. But I hope he will 'come back' in flashbacks or something. Andrew was amazing in this role, but despite of all strange theories of which I heard about how Jim might have survived- IMHO he couldn't.
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
No more Andrew Scott in a Westwood suit? 
I also don't think that he survived... but, but... nahhh please excuse me while I go cry in a corner and imagine his returning.
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- Davina
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
May I join you please?
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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
- Mary Me
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Re: Is there any chance Jim might have survived?
Of course, here in the corner is enough room for us both... and others who would join us *sobs*
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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."
"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."
"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"
