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Richard III's Skeleton found
Today it has been confirmed that the skeleton found in the remains of a church beneath a Leicestershire carpark last year is that of Richard lll. DNA testing has been carried out using DNA from the skeleton and that given by a living, distant relative of the king (17th generation) and proves the skeleton is his. The skeleton did have a spinal curvature.
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That's really exciting because there was always the discussion if Shakespeare created the image of the hunchback to discredit him for political reasons. But the Queen still has to give her consent to have the remains of the princes examined as well as to prove if they were murdered and buried in the Tower. 
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I watched the documentary about the whole discovery and the variety of tests done. Fascinating and he clearly fought to the end- his injuries were horrific. The Richard lll Society works to counter Tudor propaganda and to try to establish what he was really like as a king and a man.
www.richardiii.net
BBC news report with more details:
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This was interesting.
If this is offensive to any Brits, feel free to delete:
Cheryl Wheeler (American singer-songwriter) says that apparently Richard was killed in a fight over a parking spot.
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I'm no Brit but I'm sure they won't be offended. He wasn't a very nice guy after all. And he had to go by car as he'd lost his horse in the battle. 
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"But he wasn't a very nice man." "No. No, he wasn't really, was he?"
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"Should have seen the route he took us to get here!"
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To the battle of Bosworth? I just remembered - there's indeed a connection between Sherlock and Richard III. In the film with Ian McKellen the showdown is set at Battersea Power Station.
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Right, that's also why the battle was such a disaster 
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They should have taken the Tube. 
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Since no one of the cabs would take him.
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Exactly. And he wasn't even on the side of the angels.
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Definitely not offensive to most Brits (not sure about Yorkists or Ricardians though) you should see the jokes on Twitter!
E.g. Richard lll officially declared winner of the 1485 hide-and-seek championship.
Well that puts Richard lll in third place in the hide-and-seek contest. Just got to find Lord Lucan and Shergar now.
More to follow... but I'll not include any rude ones (oh yes there are some! Lol!)
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My Shakespeare teacher gave us a 30 slide presentation on this today. It did set us back 20 minutes though. 
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Re: Richard III's Skeleton found
Davina wrote:
Definitely not offensive to most Brits (not sure about Yorkists or Ricardians though) you should see the jokes on Twitter!
E.g. Richard lll officially declared winner of the 1485 hide-and-seek championship.
Well that puts Richard lll in third place in the hide-and-seek contest. Just got to find Lord Lucan and Shergar now.
More to follow... but I'll not include any rude ones (oh yes there are some! Lol!)
It would have been amazing if it had turned out to be Jimmy Hoffa.
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Was this an analysis of how Shakespeare was a great propagandist for the Tudors? Mind you, he knew his audience so you cannot blame him. Everyone always loves a good old-fashioned villain.
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Richard lll won't be the last bloke to have his face reconstructed after leaving a pub car park in Leicester.
Now the search is on for Richard lll's horse. Has anyone tried Tescos?
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New sign at the car park reads:
This is a pay and display car park
Please pay at ticket machine
No burying of dead monarchs.
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How much fun you can get out of a king 500 years dead. He would have made a nice Moriarty.
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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
