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Last edited by Sherlock Holmes (December 5, 2012 9:45 pm)
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I don't care for the show myself, though I wanted to like it. It's well done, but it just lacks something for me. But, Benedict did clear up this quote awhile back and how he never meant it seriously. Besides, I can't imagine any actor dogging a show this popular, even if it was true.
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that article was written in august 2012. If I recall correctly, and it IS posted elsewhere on this forum---Benedict has said that he apologized, and was kind of joking, when he said this.
I for one love Downton Abbey, but I only got into it this year, thanks to PBS and hearing that Dame Maggie Smith was in it.
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Totally correct skitty.
The quotes were given as tongue-in-cheek comments. Ben and Dan Stevens are good friends; Julian Fellowes is an old family friend of the Cumberbatches knowing Benedict since he was a small child.
It was purely said as a joke aimed at his friends. Benedict has nothing but praise for the showand its cast in reality.
I do remember posting about this as it showed the level of thinking by the fandom; to me it had gotten completely out of control & had Benedict said ' all people should fart as they enter the theatre' cumberbatch fans everywhere would have stocked up on licorice, ..... all because Benedict was reported to have said so.
Downton is a very enjoyable series; yes there are some inaccuracies in a few minor things but overall does appear to reflect the times it is set in. I believe it deserves all the accolades that have been placed upon it.
In comparison, for sheer viewing enjoyment value alone it wins hands down over parade's End. I don't believe any actor could save Parade from its weaknesses in storyline; it would have been far better to be left as a book only.
But back to the main topic, this episode of reporting ben 'out of context' was one of the things that riled Benedict & pushed him toward his next 'inaccurately quoted' quote - the 'may as well move to USA' one.
He seriously has a point. I am sure he would prefer his fans stopped blindly reading & believing everything reported about him, or what he said.
He admits he does NOT think before making these comments and whilst afterwards he regrets them, he has npo desire to 'take them back' as the people involved know the TRUE story & what others think really doesn't bother him.
In fact, if people took off the rose coloured glasses and really looked at what he DOES say (and watching actual footage of whole interviews is best, so as to keep things IN context) people may see Benedict in a completely different light.
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Here's one of the many interviews he did afterwards, debunkng the quote as being a serious attack on the show.
I also recall one where spoke of his friendship with some of the cast & crew and how he had joked with them , I am yet to find that one for you.
....."Being Misquoted About Downton Abbey"
Benedict Cumberbatch is relieved to set the record straight on how he's apparently "down on Downton", revealing a private joke got taken completely out of context.
"What I actually said was a joke with Rebecca Eaton (producer of Downton), in full Sherlock mode," he explained in London recently. "I told her, 'be gone, woman.'
"I don’t speak like that. I don’t say 'Be gone' and I don’t call a woman 'Woman,' and anyone who knows me would know that, including (Downton cast members) Dan Stephens, Michelle Dockery, Julian Fellowes himself, Hugh Bonneville.
"All these people are my friends, they would just laugh when they read it, but it was just taken the wrong way.
"I did think the second series did fall off a little bit, but half the cast said the same thing. But what he does is great, taking incredibly complex storylines and puts them in a soap and drama that keeps you hooked. It’s good Sunday night telly."
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Excerpt of interview with Benedict where he explains what he said
TVLINE : Speaking of your past comments, did you get any blowback from the perceived slam you made against Abbey’s second season in that recent New York Times article?
(Editor’s Note: In the piece, Cumberbatch recalled an incident at the Golden Globes in January where Masterpiece exec Rebecca Eaton playfully taunted him with the statue Abbey had just won.
“I just looked at it and went: ‘Begone, woman,’" he recounted. ‘Bring it back when it says Sherlock or Steven Moffat or myself — someone else who’s more deserving than the second (season) of Downton Abbey.’" )
Benedict: Oh God, you would not believe it! I mean, honestly, it’s like people don’t have any sense of irony or a brain.
First of all, I knew it was the first [season] that it was getting awarded for, so that was the first part of the joke.
The second part is that Rebecca Eaton, the executive producer on Sherlock and Downton, is a friend.
The third, and probably the most important, is that [Abbey creator] Julian Fellowes has known me since I was born. [Abbey leading man] Dan Stevens is one of my good friends — one of my closest friends in England — as is Michelle Dockery.
There’s just no way I would say something like that without it being tongue-in-cheek.
And I don’t walk around town saying ‘Begone, woman!’
And suddenly [I’m in the middle of] a PR disaster. Maybe I am a PR disaster because I talk too much or don’t filter enough. But I was kind of mortified.
I play such a contemporaneous, vile and whiplash-smart [character] who doesn’t [tolerate] mediocrity or any type of bureaucracy or any stupidity, and yet as an actor — a misunderstood actor – you have to put up with a lot of it.
So I just let that go.
I can tell you I’m a huge fan of Downton, and what I said was quite, quite clearly – to most intelligent New York Times readers – a joke.
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Ahh wow...I didn't know about those other articles...
In light of this, I will adjust the title slightly to something less offensive!