Kittyhawk wrote:

What's the procedure for having a person/child committed? There must be some safeguards to prevent people from getting rid of somebody... What bothers me is that Eurus is just "disappeared" after she burns down her first facility (IF Mycroft tells the truth here) - her parents think she's dead - Uncle Rudy and later Mycroft take over responsibility (neither would be next of kin, would they?). Sounds at the very minimum like abuse of the system to me... And Sherrinford is not a hospital, the Governor claims. So for me Eurus is unlawfully locked up, doesn't matter whether the Mental Health Act or criminal law is supposed to apply.
 

Mycroft is the government so the way I see it he would have little difficulties to circumvent the process. It would make sense for him to make Eurus disappear after a fire. It is easy to explain lack of the body in those circumstances and tell everyone that she was burnt to a crisp in her room.

The procedure for sectioning someone is quite straightforward with 2 psychiatrists and a social worker agreeing that they have a mental disorder of a nature and/or degree that warrants compulsory treatment. and completing relevant paperwork. There are safeguards in place in terms of the right to appeal and regular reviews by the tribunal of patients on long-term sections.

Procedures for forensic sections (that can be applied by the court for those over the age of 10) are a bit different. For example, section 37/41 does not give you any rights for appeal and the only person who can grant patient leave or discharge the patient is the secretary of state. Even the psychiatrist in charge of their treatment can't discharge them without a secretary of state say so. It is not common for children to end up on 37/41 but it happens, usually in relation to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.  


 

Yes and is that supposed to be her fault?
Certainly society needed protecting from her, she also needed protecting from herself, but she needed help. She was sick, not bad.

belis wrote:

Mycroft is the government so the way I see it he would have little difficulties to circumvent the process. It would make sense for him to make Eurus disappear after a fire. It is easy to explain lack of the body in those circumstances and tell everyone that she was burnt to a crisp in her room.
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I never doubted that Uncle Rudy/Mycroft were able to make Eurus disappear, I just doubted it was either morally right or legally correct. And as we seem to agree that they were "circumventing the process" I continue to find Uncle Rudy a despicable person - and possibly Mycroft as well, depending on how old and how manipulated by Rudy he was when he took over.

I haven't been following this thread, but I do sometimes feel that death would be preferable to the "life" she is being forced to live inside those walls.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that she is too dangerous to be let out. And she can't be treated. But wouldn't death be preferable to living your whole life behind blank walls with nothing to do?

Kittyhawk wrote:

I never doubted that Uncle Rudy/Mycroft were able to make Eurus disappear, I just doubted it was either morally right or legally correct. And as we seem to agree that they were "circumventing the process" I continue to find Uncle Rudy a despicable person - and possibly Mycroft as well, depending on how old and how manipulated by Rudy he was when he took over.

I suspect that outcome for her would have been broadly similar. Having killed a child and then moving on to a serious arson more or less guarantees a very long stint in a very secure facility. I wonder what uncle Rudy's motivation was though. Somehow I doubt it was to spare her parents heartache of seeing her locked up for the rest of her life. More likely he was concerned what it is doing to his reputation to be related to a dangerous person like that and wanting to avoid publicity. 
 

Don't forget that Mycroft gave her a violin and a number of opportunities to save lives.  Not to mention a 5-minute unsupervised visit with Moriarty!

 

Kittyhawk wrote:

I suspect that was one reason. He might also have hoped that Eurus's genius mind would prove useful one day - as it did.

Placing her in a facility under his own control he can assure that he as free access and can utilise her intellect to his own gain. He is a bit arrogant so I think he underestimated her and never suspected that he may end up being a pawn in her elaborate game of human chess.