Vhanja wrote:

Again with the black and white thinking - of course you don't have to be a Moftiss admirer to watch the show. Why is it always either/or?

Mentioning that there are more possible reasons for watching Sherlock than admiration for Mofftiss writing is black and white thinking? Hmmm.... bizarre....

besleybean wrote:

Two final points: despite my constant reading of Mary having killed Sherlock, or at least shot him.

Oh, you mean Sherlock was not shot at all by her?
Must have imagined those HLV scenes then.
 

Liberty wrote:

I've been watching Breaking Bad recently.  I don't know if you've ever watched it, but there's a character, who I was shocked to find out seems to be hated by a large portion of the fandom, right from the beginning.  So much so that it was kind of an internet phenomenon.   Now it's two very different characters, two different situations, two different fandoms and so on, but I felt I recognised something - that there's a group of people who really want those characters to be bad and to interpret all their actions negatively.   If the writing/acting doesn't fit with that, then it's bad writing/acting.  Whereas it's actually just a choice of a different course (and personally, I think "good" Mary works best, story-wise, following from what we saw before).
 

Sorry, but what are you impying here?
Some fans somewhere hated some character from other series for no reason (or so you think) - and that makes fans who disagree with shooting Sherlock and see that act as inexusable act from Mary into people who just refuse to see how incredibly angelic she is?
These two things are absolutely unrelated and one says or proves nothing about the other.

nakahara wrote:

Liberty wrote:

I've been watching Breaking Bad recently.  I don't know if you've ever watched it, but there's a character, who I was shocked to find out seems to be hated by a large portion of the fandom, right from the beginning.  So much so that it was kind of an internet phenomenon.   Now it's two very different characters, two different situations, two different fandoms and so on, but I felt I recognised something - that there's a group of people who really want those characters to be bad and to interpret all their actions negatively.   If the writing/acting doesn't fit with that, then it's bad writing/acting.  Whereas it's actually just a choice of a different course (and personally, I think "good" Mary works best, story-wise, following from what we saw before).
 

Sorry, but what are you impying here?
Some fans somewhere hated some character from other series for no reason (or so you think) - and that makes fans who disagree with shooting Sherlock and see that act as inexusable act from Mary into people who just refuse to see how incredibly angelic she is?
These two things are absolutely unrelated and one says or proves nothing about the other.

Well, Skyler came to mind, as I watching Breaking Bad.   Honestly, it wasn't just "some fans somewhere" or something I imagined, but "news".   There's quite a lot about it on the internet if you're interested.     Anyway, I thought it might ring a bell with other people who have watched both shows and are aware of it.   If the character does something that might be innocuous for another character, then there's a group of people who will interpret it negatively, despite that not being the writers' intention.     

If you have a look through the links or notes from the post about Steven's comments about Mary further up (sorry, I don't understand tumblr!), you'll see the kind of thing I mean.  

It seemed relevant to Besleybean's post, anyway.

Really?  I didn't know that.  Although I suppose it's in a lot of people's favourite lists, so it makes sense!  It's pretty good - certainly one of the best things I've seen on TV in recent years.   The other similarity to Sherlock which occurred to me, was that the main characters are a duo - and I did read that they planned to off one of them after one series, yet watching the whole thing I feel that a pair is needed, in the same way that Sherlock wouldn't quite work as a solo show. 

You're welcome!  I've been itching to find out and envious of the people going (while hoping they had a fantastic time!).

Here's another great post.  Some of this has been posted elsewhere but some of it is new, I think:
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161178995817/from-the-makers-of-sherlock

... The only answers which were illuminating were 1) that season 4 was always going to be about Mary’s death, because John being a widower is an important part of canon, so she has to go. Thus the series became about grief. How John handled it, how Sherlock handled it. paraphrasing here, because they loved Mary so much.

Two, as Steven put it, you shine a light where you want it, you don’t paint the whole backdrop. Meaning, what they left out of the story doesn’t matter. This arose when a girl asked what happened after John got shot by Euros, and Steven made it into a bit of a joke … oh well Sherlock called the police, and followed the tracker he put behind John’s left ear, etc. etc. So there’s your answer for a lot of things like, how do they survive huge explosions, or what’s on that note? Doesn’t matter, blank background.

Three, all three of them together have a project greenlighted at BBC that has nothing to do with Sherlock but could be considered a, quote, stablemate. A later answer implied that it was updating a classic.

Someone asked about Garridebs, which I had personally also asked Steven about, and he gave the same reply again, that the important part of it was the personal moment when John is shot, BUT, we don’t need to see that from our John and Sherlock because everyone knows Sherlock would be upset. So he just used the name cuz he had three bodies to drop into the sea, why not call them that? Umm, ok.

Four, the decision to make Redbeard a child was made during TAB filming. According to them, It had become something of a joke, Sherlock mourning a dog so much, but what if it was a child? And they named him Victor Trevor from the canon.

I know some people are convinced they are lying liars who lie, but in person they are very genuine. Of course they are going to leave some loopholes open in case they need to come back to them, but I RRREEEAAALLLLYYY think they love Mary, think she’s not evil, and she’s dead.

I've bolded some bits I found particularly interesting!   I wonder if Redbeard being a child was the piece of information Mark accidentally let slip to Benedict during TAB filming?  It would be funny if it was, mirroring Mycroft giving triggers to Sherlock! 

I'm very curious about the new project!

If you did mention it, I think I'd forgotten the detail about updating a classic.  About time they thought up their own ideas if you ask me.  

I'm kidding!

Anyway, that particular tumblr account seems to be a treasure trove of snippets from the con.    I get the impression that despite some of the negativity that we've talked about, the fans at the convention were respectful and civil, and the team were lovely! 

Lovely Wanda and Tim!
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161149703532/the-perfection-that-is-wanda-and-tim-god-bless

Andrew with some comments, including views on food and drink!
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161149182302/holy-crap-more-andrew-a-lot-of-his-answers-at
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161140465802/more-andrew

S5 and thoughts on Mary (I must have missed the whole bullet speed thing!)
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161150127947/con-bits-and-bobs

More on Sue and Johnlock:
http://friskykatt.tumblr.com/post/161248468722/asking-sue-the-big-question-exactly



 

I really enjoyed Sue's "but we were NEVER making that show, we’ve ALWAYS known what direction we were going, and that wasn’t - John doesn’t want that, and Sherlock doesn’t want ANYTHING" reply, having been that "Sherlock doesn't want anything" fan well before discovering johnlock

I'm also happy to hear that Sue is so graciously sensitive. Dealing with all the hate thrown your way must be hard so I'm glad she has ways to cope and remain so generous with the fans.

So much to catch up with!  I will be posting some pictures and stuff from the convention.  I didn't get to attend as many panels as I would've liked.  Photos and autographs took a lot of time and I was NOT missing them!
But I enjoyed everything I did see.  Every single guest was gracious and friendly.  I felt in awe of them all but they were so nice to me and showed a real appreciation for the fans.

Side Note:  Damn, Alistair Petrie is handsome. 

And hellishly funny. I really didn't expect that.