Again, I have no idea where the Russian fan site gets these quotes from, but here's one from Martin on John's anger towards Sherlock. Keep in mind it's been translated into Russian and back. Sorry I've got no source for you.

"Sherlock has promised to keep her safe. John enters, Mary is shot, so obviously Sherlock couldn't keep his promise. John understands of course that Sherlock can't stop the bullet, he can't save everyone. It's about all these tiny things that have been annoying John in Sherlock over all these years. Everything that's been happening between them has sort of accumulated. So John decides: "That's it, I'm removing you from my life." John loves Sherlock but can't stand him at times nonetheless. Of course it's not enough to remove Sherlock from his life because they still care about each other. But it's a hard time for John. He's barely become a father and now he's a single father, a widower. He doesn't know what to do. We often cut ourselves loose from the dearest people in order to pushish ourselves. John is just devastated. He doesn't know now what's right and wrong."

Last edited by ewige (January 8, 2017 4:41 pm)

I think that sounds about right. Sherlock is an easy target because there are things in their history that John has every right to be mad about. Also, when confronted with John when he's properly angry, Sherlock never fights back. Making him the perfect target.

I think there's guilt on John's part too.  Guilt for bringing Mary back (Sherlock and he were working together - the tracer was his idea) to her death, for encouraging her to go ahead to the aquarium, and for the "affair", etc.  I think Sherlock doesn't fight back because he feels guilty too. 

Yes, I think both of them are.  I know we've been told that there will be funny bits in TLD, but it's hard to imagine after last weeks ending! 

Here's an interesting detailed list over what John might have felt a) when Sherlock fell and b) when Mary died.

Not sure if Moftiss really have thought it through that detailed, fans do tend to go a bit overboard with analyzing. However, I do think there's quite a few good points here:

https://asherlockstudy.tumblr.com/post/155573750330/john-when-his-loved-ones-died

Then perhaps you should get beyond that first one, as there are more details written.

I thought there were good points, but I'm not sure why people would even expect that John should act in completely the same way to two different "deaths", in different circumstances, of people who play different roles in his life?  I'm just not sure why the writer is making that argument?  Or maybe I have missed something (not being a usual tumblr-frequenter!).   I thought Martin did both scenes extremely well, and I'm very glad they were different (and that he doesn't just have a stock "somebody I love has just died" acting routine!).

Quite so.
But point remains: he is gutted at the loss of his wife and mother of his child.

Thanks, Vhanja.  I think I've missed that line of argument - maybe not so popular here on this forum.  I looked outside the forum after the episode, and people were making fun of John's gutteral moaning - which I found heartbreaking - so I've mostly kept away!  I think he was clearly not faking.  I don't even think John would be a good faker. 

Here's what Martin has to say about it.  A lot of it we've gone over before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tThtRtMXk8