How come the super secret D-notice stuff is being discussed in the office with a glass wall? Isn't it supposed to be a secret meeting?

Here's another "continuity error"... in the scene where these things happen, John's "presence" in 221B is a bit odd...

1. Sherlock tells Lestrade and Hopkins to shut up outside his flat, shuts door and sits down in his chair. At this point there seems to be nothing in John's chair.
2. Sherlock asks for John's opinion during chat with client and suddenly notices red balloon there in John's chair. John then appears from kitchen.
3. Sherlock kicks the client out of 221B. When he shuts the door you hear John (and see the balloon) before you actually see John come into the shot... they have a little banter and John walks from behind his chair to stand in front of the wooden shelving in the background.
4. Hopkins knocks and comes in, but when the shot zooms out again John is not there anymore.
5. Lestrade enters next and when he shows Sherlock the bust suddenly John's there again, in pretty much the same spot in front of the shelving.

Also note that during this scene, John never shares screen time with any other character apart from Sherlock. Even when he's supposed to be part of the conversation with the client and Lestrade, you never see John in the same frame as those other characters.

I don't think John was really there at all.



 

Last edited by TheOtherOne (January 5, 2017 6:48 pm)

ewige wrote:

How come the super secret D-notice stuff is being discussed in the office with a glass wall? Isn't it supposed to be a secret meeting?

 
Yes. And everyone has their back to the screens except Sherlock 

There are two screens behind Mycroft, too.
It just doesn't really look like a secret meeting.

Last edited by ewige (January 5, 2017 6:55 pm)

TheOtherOne wrote:

Here's another "continuity error"... in the scene where these things happen, John's "presence" in 221B is a bit odd...

1. Sherlock tells Lestrade and Hopkins to shut up outside his flat, shuts door and sits down in his chair. At this point there seems to be nothing in John's chair.
2. Sherlock asks for John's opinion during chat with client and suddenly notices red balloon there in John's chair. John then appears from kitchen.
3. Sherlock kicks the client out of 221B. When he shuts the door you hear John (and see the balloon) before you actually see John come into the shot... they have a little banter and John walks from behind his chair to stand in front of the wooden shelving in the background.
4. Hopkins knocks and comes in, but when the shot zooms out again John is not there anymore.
5. Lestrade enters next and when he shows Sherlock the bust suddenly John's there again, in pretty much the same spot in front of the shelving.

Also note that during this scene, John never shares screen time with any other character apart from Sherlock. Even when he's supposed to be part of the conversation with the client and Lestrade, you never see John in the same frame as those other characters.

I don't think John was really there at all.



 

Like Sherlock still adds John to his every day life in his mind palace? I love that idea. That would be another example for watching the MP without being told.

You see John's chair in the shot as Sherlock walks to sit down in his chair to talk to the client. Watch that scene again.

besleybean wrote:

Do we really get to see much of John's chair at the point of Sherlock shouting at Greg and Hopkins?

Schmiezi wrote:

TheOtherOne wrote:

Here's another "continuity error"... in the scene where these things happen, John's "presence" in 221B is a bit odd...

1. Sherlock tells Lestrade and Hopkins to shut up outside his flat, shuts door and sits down in his chair. At this point there seems to be nothing in John's chair.
2. Sherlock asks for John's opinion during chat with client and suddenly notices red balloon there in John's chair. John then appears from kitchen.
3. Sherlock kicks the client out of 221B. When he shuts the door you hear John (and see the balloon) before you actually see John come into the shot... they have a little banter and John walks from behind his chair to stand in front of the wooden shelving in the background.
4. Hopkins knocks and comes in, but when the shot zooms out again John is not there anymore.
5. Lestrade enters next and when he shows Sherlock the bust suddenly John's there again, in pretty much the same spot in front of the shelving.

Also note that during this scene, John never shares screen time with any other character apart from Sherlock. Even when he's supposed to be part of the conversation with the client and Lestrade, you never see John in the same frame as those other characters.

I don't think John was really there at all.



 

Like Sherlock still adds John to his every day life in his mind palace? I love that idea. That would be another example for watching the MP without being told.

I'm not sure if it's MP or not... but it's definitely Sherlock playing tricks with us as the narrator of this episode.

Well I mean more if Sherlock was just relating the story to Ella.
I think it was obviously set up as MP in TSOT.
Point in the latter, he was speaking to John and explaining to him, at the time.
He doesn't put Ella in the scenes, does he?

It's not only the sharks as her mobile. There are also apples and magpies on the wall, both strongly associated with dear Jim.

ewige wrote:

How come the super secret D-notice stuff is being discussed in the office with a glass wall? Isn't it supposed to be a secret meeting?

Windows from inside- mirrors from outside? Otherwise it is strange to have any meetingroom leading to a more less public hall. 
Another possibility is that the whole area was closed for the meeting as there is nobody in the hall but in that case would be probably easier to find a place without windows