I was right about the walls, thank you! 


And yes, it does scare me how much we see of Mycroft... I am really scared of what might happen

At least Mrs. Hudson rage gives me hope that Mycroft will just do something so cold and calculated that it would shock anyone but Sherlock, instead of getting himself hurt..or worse

Last edited by Lola Red (January 3, 2017 6:08 pm)

Once again this neither reflects anything I see about Mary, her relationships with John and Sherlock or Mycroft for that matter.
Mary worked for Mycroft for a while, he knows her abilities.
But she was retired and married John for love...this is what the series shows to me.
Mycroft had concerns about Mary's SAFETY and warned Sherlock of that very fact.
The only open question for me is CAM: did Mycroft send Mary in, did he know she was going to go in etc?

Having said that: if he arranged her death or allowed her to die...that would make him a 'reptile'.
But we haven't yet been shown anything that would justify this.

Last edited by besleybean (January 3, 2017 10:59 pm)

Possibly they all know about that now, have dealt with it and moved on.
I mean she's dead now, so what does it matter anyway?

Liberty wrote:

Interesting point though, that the showdown with Mary present meant exposing her.  If she'd survived, she might have been arrested ("I could go to prison for the rest of my life").  Sherlock didn't phone the police, John did, but I hope there was some sort of plan - or maybe she could get protection, as with AGRA she was working for the government (whatever else she'd done).

Maybe John wanted to have her arrested? 
 

It would have been easy enough to arrange, if he did!  But it seems like none of them (John, Sherlock, Mycroft) wanted that to happen. 

I don't think it's strange at all.
On the world scale of events, it hardly registers as a ripple.

Exactly.
Why would Mycroft even think Mary was a danger?
AS we have since discovered, she was more in danger herself.
I would like to remind people:  Sherlock is still a very active and healthy looking corpse, whereas to me, Mary seems quite a lot more dead...I think I know who got the better deal.

Last edited by besleybean (January 4, 2017 1:14 pm)

I also think Mycroft would not have lifted a finger to protect Mary. I think the only reason why he got involved was that there was some messy business leading back to his turf, and, as he said, he does not like loose ends.

We have had very little interaction between Mary and Mycroft, I think only on the plane. There, Mycroft seem unsurprised by her hacking skills, she is dismissive of MI5 security, but that is about it. At Christmas, we do not see them interact. Mary is in the living room drinking tea, Mycroft is in the kitchen bemoaning his fate. Even at the aquarium, they do not interact if I remember correctly.

I think Mycroft possibly does know who shot Sherlock, but as you say, Lola, he must have come to the same conclusion that Sherlock does.  I still like my little pet theory that Mycroft sent Mary after Magnussen (and so might feel a little responsible for Sherlock getting in the way, even though he warned him), but I don't think there's anything really to back that up in TST.    I do think Mycroft probably knew who Mary was from the beginning.   And that may be why he's warning Sherlock at the wedding in TSOT - he knows Mary won't live long, and Sherlock will be hurt (as he was over Redbeard).