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January 3, 2017 11:22 am  #321


Re: First impressons and discussions

If you looked closely, you see Sherlock is breaking his heart...well at least visibly crying.


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January 3, 2017 11:23 am  #322


Re: First impressons and discussions

I agree. Benedict was brilliant in that scene.  I thought John and Amanda did very well with what was (let's be honest, even though I loved it and found it very moving) a bit of a cliched scene.  I thought Marcia Warren was very good as Norbury too, in her small amount of screen time. 

Maybe it was the high of getting a new episode, but I was gripped from the start, and found it funny and entertaining.   I could have done without the labour in the car scene, but most of it I loved!  Even Uncle Sherlock was kind of cute and not overdone.  I do think there had to be that first part with the three of them and the baby, to set up for what was to come.   Finding the AGRA stick straight after TAB wouldn't have worked so well, I think.

 

January 3, 2017 11:26 am  #323


Re: First impressons and discussions

Mark said they deliberately always like to re-establish the 221B domesticity(such as it is)and the crime solving, right at the start of a new series, before they kick off into the main show.


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January 3, 2017 11:28 am  #324


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Yeah, the first part of the episode worked much better for me the second time. They did actually look quite happy, al three of them, for a while. And I think it was quite ok with one "Uncle Sherlock"-scene. Quite adorable, in fact. 

I am slowly falling more and more in love with the episode. However, it's really not a stand alone episode, so I can't really conclude with anything until I've seen the other two episodes.


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January 3, 2017 11:31 am  #325


Re: First impressons and discussions

Of course it's the first of a series and has its place in the whole canon, but I still loved it.


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January 3, 2017 6:12 pm  #326


Re: First impressons and discussions

OK, a quick question: Is something wrong with my eyes or brain?
Because in the beginning of the episode I understood it like Sherlock didn't kill Magnussen, it was one of the police snipers aiming at Magnussens head and Sherlock fired in the ground!?

I only watched this episode once and at the moment I have no possibility to check again what I thought I have seen...... o.O


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January 3, 2017 6:14 pm  #327


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No that's the story the security services have manufactured, to get Sherlock off the hook.


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January 3, 2017 7:05 pm  #328


Re: First impressons and discussions

I am depressing and driving myself mad listening to this one song over and over again...

'The Sharpest Lives' by My Chemical Romance... the likeness is chilling.
(I did a thing with some of the lyrics)
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January 3, 2017 7:23 pm  #329


Re: First impressons and discussions

Rache wrote:

OK, a quick question: Is something wrong with my eyes or brain?
Because in the beginning of the episode I understood it like Sherlock didn't kill Magnussen, it was one of the police snipers aiming at Magnussens head and Sherlock fired in the ground!?

I only watched this episode once and at the moment I have no possibility to check again what I thought I have seen...... o.O

What we saw at the beginning was the doctored footage.  The official story was going to be that it was a disgruntled squaddie, or something along those lines. 
 

 

January 3, 2017 7:25 pm  #330


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Or a trigger happy one!


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January 3, 2017 7:27 pm  #331


Re: First impressons and discussions

Vhanja wrote:

Yeah, the first part of the episode worked much better for me the second time. They did actually look quite happy, al three of them, for a while. And I think it was quite ok with one "Uncle Sherlock"-scene. Quite adorable, in fact. 

I am slowly falling more and more in love with the episode. However, it's really not a stand alone episode, so I can't really conclude with anything until I've seen the other two episodes.

I definitely liked the episode better after the second viewing too. Maybe the excitement of seeing a new Sherlock distracted me first time around.


                                                                                                                      

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January 3, 2017 7:30 pm  #332


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I'm hoping to watch it again tomorrow and take notes this time, butt I loved it on its first airing. I actually think that's the first time I've loved the opening episode of a new series...though I immediately loved SIP.


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January 3, 2017 8:02 pm  #333


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Oh thanks besleybean and Liberty for clearing this up.
English isn't my first language and I suppose that I didn't catch everything in the beginning because I had to jump into my English skills from 0% to 100% in a second. :D


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January 3, 2017 8:05 pm  #334


Re: First impressons and discussions

I'm sure we all sympathise.
There are plenty of first language English speakers who are baffled by the fast pace of Sherlock!


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January 3, 2017 8:14 pm  #335


Re: First impressons and discussions

Just finished a 3rd viewing.   Feeling better about it now.

I just love these guys.   Can't wait to watch how they find their way back to each other.

 

January 3, 2017 8:16 pm  #336


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Let's just hope they do!


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January 3, 2017 9:46 pm  #337


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besleybean wrote:

I'm sure we all sympathise.
There are plenty of first language English speakers who are baffled by the fast pace of Sherlock!

Yeah I know and it makes a difference if you know the episode in your mother tongue and then watch it in English or if you watch a new episode the first time in English.
Actually I understood most of it, even a lot of Sherlocks fast deductions. I was a bit surprised and proud. ;) (For me it is easier to understand Sherlocks fast speech than Lestrade. Lestrade is mumbling too much/has a dialect that is not easy for my ears.)
The problem was to get into it and the Magnussen scene was right at the beginning (and it didn't help that I was already too excited because of the new episode). At the end of the episode I almost didn't realise that I was listening to a different language.

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January 3, 2017 9:48 pm  #338


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Well done you!


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January 3, 2017 10:59 pm  #339


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I'm continually impressed by how good non-native speakers English is.  It's kind of embarrassing how bad most of us are in the UK at any other language.  I've watched a second time and although I was really concentrating the first time, it seems I missed all sorts of things! 

Watching with somebody else was interesting ... I hadn't realised at first how obscure some of it is for someone who has casually watched HLV, oh, three years ago.   Things like the AGRA stick were shown in flashback, but really skimmed over. 

 

January 3, 2017 11:02 pm  #340


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Yeah, actually hubby made the odd comment that showed he wasn't understanding...but I can't remember what he said now!


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