Well yes, I was just trying to take it a bit deeper.

We have been discussing medical metas, both for and against a "surgery shot". There are arguments to be found for all kinds of scenarios. For me, however, what matters most is what I see and hear in the show:

- Sherlock: What was directly behind you when you were murdered? /  I’ve not been murdered yet.
- John saying "We are losing you". 
- Inner Moriarty = Sherlock himself telling him he is dying. 
- The doctors turning away from the operation table. 
- The light being dimmed. 

And between this and the 221B scene there is virtually nothing that explains why Sherlock should have changed his opinion. Apart from the fact that there is a killer with a loaded gun in the room and he is bleeding internally and tries to keep John as safe as possible. 

 

Partly selfish, though thank goodness she at least didn't want to kill him.

Because she was right in knowing that the truth about her past would cause John pain.

I think he's about to face the worst pain of all.

besleybean wrote:

I think he's about to face the worst pain of all.

And I think you're right.  There can be nothing more painful than losing your whole family.
 

Quite so.

Yes, she made a mistake.
Thankfully, not a hanging offence.

Schmiezi wrote:

That sounds like she only had two options: making John lose Sherlock or making John lose her and the baby.

I deeply disagree with that. She also had the Option to trust Sherlock to help her. AND she could have believed that John's love for her was deep enough to forgive her the past. Apparently she dismissed that option.

But again, you're assuming that she believed Sherlock would help an assassin, and help her hide her identity from John.    I think that because Sherlock did eventually help her, we assume that of course he would help Mary.   But before it happens, I don't think that was actually obvious at all.  Who would have thought that he would murder Magnussen?  Who would have thought that he'd accept Mary into the fold, and even encourage her and John to be together, knowing she was an assassin?  I, as a viewer, wouldn't have bet on that.   So why do you think that Mary assumes that?

And about John's love, plenty of people here argue that it goes against his character to accept Mary.  It's not just Mary. 

This is what I'm trying to say, that people often seem to be working on the premise that
(a) Mary believed that Sherlock would help her, but chose not to engage him
(b) Mary believed that it would be easier for John to lose her and the baby than to lose Sherlock.

That makes assumptions about Mary's beliefs that just aren't backed up by anything we see.   In fact, it makes sense for Mary to think the opposite - that Sherlock would not help an assassin who lied, that it would be devastating for John to lose her (she thought she was the best thing that could have happened to John, after all).   We don't know if she assumes these things either of course.  We've only got her actions to tell us.  And to me, she acts as if she believes Sherlock wouldn't help her. 
 

Last edited by Liberty (August 12, 2016 7:31 am)

Oh, I understand that!  She does actually misjudge both of them, it seems (Sherlock does help her, John is not broken and he stays with her).  They are much more on her side than she expects or deserves.