Thanks, Vhanja!

Vhanja wrote:

I know I'm being childish here, but I DON*T want Mary to play any bigger part in this than she already is.

 
I'm with you on this.

Vhanja wrote:

Another interesting that may (or may not) link into S3 - when someone from the audience asked how it was to be around your relatives when doing the show, Ben immediately jumped on him playing with his parents. Unless his parents are part of S4, that was years ago, and it would make more sense for Amanda to answer that question (who plays with Martin).

So either Mummy and Daddy Holmes are part of S4, or Ben just got carried away again.

Ben's dad was spotted at setlock location I believe, but no photos or reports go with that, so it wasn't entirely clear if he was filming or just meeting up with Benedict for lunch.  LOL  But I agree, he talked like he just worked with them again and with thinking that we will get more family background in S4 it makes sense that we will get to see them in a short scene again.

It's not that complicated.
There have been some hints that Sherlock has removed a traumatic memory from his past and that redbeard is tied to it. Here's meta I read some time ago about it to add to my own meta.
The whole of TAB "going deeper" into in mind palace could be about retrieving that memory.

If they have been separated when they where very young they don't recognize each other.
Mary had another name. Sherlock was possibly called William. Mycroft might have another first name, gone by Mike or not played with younger siblings.
Some of the characters might even know about it already and not saying it.

The aim of episodes it's then to explain the story which we don't yet know, once the episode is over it's not complicated, it's the story of the episode.

Oh well. What have been said here really makes some sense... still i doubt she may be their sister.

Vhanja wrote:

As I see it, the fact that they become very evasive and awkward whenever the baby comes up, tells me something is going to happen to her. That is why I wonder if the baby will die, and quite early on as well. Since she is not talked about, not in how the baby would influence the dynamics etc. That would also help explain the "emotional rollercoater" and how the series is "darker".

And that leads me to thinking: Will the Watsons be weakend or strengthend by such an ordeal? To me, it would make sense that such a horror would mainly be dealt with in-between episodes or seasons, as is done with Sherlock's "death" and the Watson "domestic". In a three episode arc, you can't spend too much time on grieving, so it's mostly done off-screen.

 
Oh man, If someone kills that baby, John will go ballistic; but Mary.....Mary will revert into insane assassin mode and become The Avenging Mother From Hell.  There will be no hope for whoever did it.

Then, speaking of mothers, Mama Holmes will find out Mary shot her boy and will turn absolutely monstrous as she promised and there will be no hope for Mary.  LOL!  The crazy theories are endless.

RavenMorganLeigh wrote:

Vhanja wrote:

I know I'm being childish here, but I DON*T want Mary to play any bigger part in this than she already is.

 
I'm with you on this.

Same here. As it is, we will certainly get some backstory on her (which is fine, as long as we're getting some real answers along the way) and so some of the screen time will be dedicated to Mary anyway. But please not another big reveal about her...! Been there, done that.
 

I agree, the question is: Would they go there? I don't think the idea is really new, it came up pretty much right after S3 in connection with Moriarty and also, if I'm not very much mistaken, in connection with Mary.
And since we got one moment in the teaser which showed us a Sherlock who didn't look like Sherlock at all... maybe that's where they're going with The Other One.

Ho Yay wrote:

I've got a huge meta collecting all the evidence of Mary = The Other One for those interested here.
It's composed by a part that speculates if Sherlock has a sister called elizabeth and another that speculates on sherlock's sister being mary. Both part or only one could be true.

Wow, you've put together a lot!  I think some of it is a bit of a reach, but I agree that some seems to fit.  Sherlock and Mary are instantly drawn together, they are similar in some ways but there doesn't seem to be sexual attraction - possibly just because Mary's John's girlfriend.  (Although I know siblings can feel sexual attraction, especially if separated while growing up).  He seems to have a particular sort of devotion to her, which is more than he feels for, say, Molly.   He so easily forgives, and wants to forgive.   Maybe if there was an unconscious sibling bond, that would explain it. 

One thing I'm not sure of - Mycroft suggests he did something unpleasant to the other one, but Mary would be about his age.  If she hadn't been brought up with the family, it couldn't be his fault.   However, maybe she resurfaced a few years ago, and he did something then?

Your picture from "Young Sherlock" - you know, I've completely ignored that film, but it was from Moftiss' era and they're talking about Sherlock going back in time (we think), so this film could well be referenced.   There's hallucinogens, a love interest who dies (Redbeard?) - how did I miss this?  I need to watch it!

This might sound crazy, but really groundbreaking would indeed be a twist about Sherlock not really being Sherlock, at least not throughout the whole show. Having a lead character of a tv show who at some point during the show wasn't 'the real one' any longer... yep, that's what I'd call groundbreaking. Maybe it wasn't Sherlock who returned after TRF? I'm not sure it would make sense for the whole of S3 though.