To be fair, Susi, she was responding to my earlier comment where I was drawing a parallel between saying "I won't read any fics with gay characters in them" and saying something like "I won't read any fics with Asian characters in them." This was my example, not kgreen's. I wasn't saying that anyone on this forum was racist, but I was pointing out that the two statements are just as bad as each other. I think my point was overlooked.

I don't mean to stir up any antagonism towards my fellow forum members, but I can't stand by and ignore homophobia, like I would not stand by and ignore racism, sexism, ageism... I will point it out, hoping that I can challenge someone's attitude, which usually comes from a lack of understanding more than anything else. You can't force someone to change their mind, but maybe you can get them to think about it.

I didn't join that fic exchange because of a lack of time and unfortunately also a lack of inspiration and ideas at the moment. But I can't believe what I have to read here.
Nobody can tell me that members who are part of that forum for a year or several years already aren't aware of the fact what our fic exchanges are meant to be. It's a give and take. And that doesn't only mean "I write a fic and I get one in return". Everybody deserves feedback on his work and that was handled like this all the times before, well, more a less, without any rules. My common sense tells me that.
And that in these exchanges Johnlock is a big topic can't be really a secret either. So, if I decide to join that exchange I really should know the circumstances and the expectations. Otherwise DON'T join in!



 

Last edited by gently69 (July 11, 2016 12:21 pm)

Yes, although you actually did with your words about being strongly encourage to comment on all fics. This is something that should not have been ignored and should definitely be included next time around. Maybe with even a stronger wording. 

It's sad that this is necessary after all those years. Especially for members who should know better.

Edit: My post refers to ukanuz' last post.

Last edited by gently69 (July 11, 2016 12:28 pm)

@ beasleybeean
And you had no idea what was happening in former exchanges concerning Johnlock, concerning commenting the other fics?

nakahara wrote:

besleybean wrote:

Some asexuals are physically revulsed by any sexual content, I don't know of any who find that just with gay sex.

And what sexual content exactly did you find in the posted stories?
Didn´t we exclude sex and gore in the rules before the exchange even started?
What except homophobia can make a story like "Starry night" (that consists of Sherlock being sad and pining, alone and John merely appearing in the same house together in the end) objectionable to people? The actual show we all watch is much more "slashy" than any scene of all our fics combined....

Only a kiss or some cuddling is... sex? You are right, nakahara.
 

Last edited by gently69 (July 11, 2016 12:37 pm)

besleybean wrote:

Others may feel comfortable with accusing people of homophobia, I don't.

You are talking to me? I didn't say anything about homophobia to anyone.
 

*Puts hand up*

I'm the one that is calling out the homophobia. No matter how nice the person is, the attitude is still homophobic, by definition.

@ ukaunz But what attitude?
As long as you are not referring to my discussion: asexuality is no more an 'attitude' than being gay is.

@nakahara I am referring(in a wider discussion on asexuality) about the posibility of not being able to cope with any lovey doveyness...for want of  another expression!  It only happens to be gay because it's Johnlock.

I am asserting that I am not convinced it's anything to do with what kind of physicality it is,but rather it's an issue with any physicality!

Last edited by besleybean (July 11, 2016 12:49 pm)

If someone says "I don't really enjoy reading about romance, kissing, cuddling or sex", that is about their own sexuality. If someone says "I won't read any slash fics" despite the fact that these fics have only very mild references to intimate relationships between the characters, I think that is showing a definite prejudice against gay people.

Okay well I can see the misunderstanding...but we are talking about Sherlock here, so as far asI am concerned, there would only ever be slash...by definition.
It is just coincidence, not exclusive.
But really, ask the individuals concerned- I can only speak for me, not for anybody else.
But I was concerned for any asexuals on the forum.