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June 10, 2016 10:37 pm  #2141


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Those , are some stunning pics of him in the spotlight.


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June 11, 2016 5:36 am  #2142


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

besleybean wrote:

No chance the lady in red could be Redbeard?!

Or just a "beard"!

But yes, I suppose she could be somebody from his past.  Even the other one? 
 

 

June 11, 2016 7:23 am  #2143


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Thought did occur.


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June 11, 2016 5:39 pm  #2144


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

besleybean wrote:

Well I certainly haven't seen any evidence for Sherlock being gay...
But I don't think he does relationships at all.

Neither have I, nor have I seen any evidence of John being a homosexual, in canon or on the BBC series.  Every piece of evidence on the show that John is in love is always in regards to a girl, and I really believe that if Sherlock were to ever fall in love, it would also be with a girl.  But as he originally told John on "A Study in Pink", he's married to his work, so no, he does not do romantic relationships.

Seeing as it appears that Redbeard was a dog, that woman is hardly likely to go by that name! =)


 

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June 11, 2016 7:56 pm  #2145


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*dashes naked through the forum flinging fairy dust*

John is not homosexual.  He's Bisexual.

Sherlock said in the first episode that girls were not his area.

Some have speculated that the dog Redbeard in the MP could be a symbol of some childhood trauma and not an actual dog.


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June 11, 2016 8:30 pm  #2146


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I think Redbeard is both a dog and a trauma.
Sherlock says girlfriends are not his area because John asks him about girlfriends.
He also says he doesn't have a boyfriend.
What evidence is there for John's bisexuality?


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June 11, 2016 9:06 pm  #2147


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Maybe there is no 'real' evidence to John's bisexuality... some guys can fall for another man without being officially gay or bi... those things can happen, especially if you're close for long periods of time going through various things together... 

Sherlock... well, who knows about his heart. I have a feeling he just doesn't care what gender etc... 

Redbeard, it's a cool theory for the lady. Didn't the MP Redbeard dog in HLV limp a bit or is my memory failing me? 


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June 11, 2016 9:09 pm  #2148


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Does Redbeard limp?
Wow, never thought of that.
Though of course John limps, when Sherlock first meets him!

EDIT: just watched the youtube footage of the Redbeard scene...I think he just lollops, like a dog!

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June 11, 2016 10:37 pm  #2149


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So, remember the script kerfuffle a while back? When Amanda posted a pic of the script, and fans enhanced it to read the words through the front page?

Well that's happened again-- only this time, it was a pap photo of Ben holding his script during the 4am shoot last night. Quite a lot of the writing -- entire sentences and scene directions, in fact -- are legible.


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June 11, 2016 10:38 pm  #2150


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Yes, quite interesting read. But there has not been any outrage so far, right? No insults to fans. Hope it stays that way. 


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June 12, 2016 2:33 am  #2151


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

GimmeCat wrote:

So, remember the script kerfuffle a while back? When Amanda posted a pic of the script, and fans enhanced it to read the words through the front page?

Well that's happened again-- only this time, it was a pap photo of Ben holding his script during the 4am shoot last night. Quite a lot of the writing -- entire sentences and scene directions, in fact -- are legible.

 
Damn!  Haven't seen that.  Is it on tumblr?


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June 12, 2016 7:24 am  #2152


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Hopefully it won't give away too much anyway - any more than could have been seen/overheard during filming.

About John being bisexual, actually, John is the only main character who is definitely not shown as bi.   John is the one who denies it.  The others, we just don't really know about for sure.  They could all be bi apart from John!

 

June 12, 2016 7:43 am  #2153


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He is certainly not happy when Sherlock 'appears' to suggest a date in TBB.


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June 12, 2016 7:49 am  #2154


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I think he knows Sherlock doesn't mean it that way.  Their relationship sometimes reminds me of that stage in friendships growing up where one person discovers boyfriends/girlfriends, and the other just can't see the attraction and wants them to carry on as they are. 

 

June 12, 2016 7:52 am  #2155


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Oh yes, it was a joke.
It matches the' shaving doctors' thingI
I think you have hit the nail on the head...
Though I do think Sherlock likes Mary.


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June 12, 2016 1:27 pm  #2156


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Liberty wrote:

Hopefully it won't give away too much anyway - any more than could have been seen/overheard during filming.

About John being bisexual, actually, John is the only main character who is definitely not shown as bi.   John is the one who denies it.  The others, we just don't really know about for sure.  They could all be bi apart from John!

When has John ever denied being bi?


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June 12, 2016 1:29 pm  #2157


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He hasn't, but nothing has shown us he is.
He didn't like Sherlock suggesting they were going on a date in TBB.
He has also stated they are not a couple.


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June 12, 2016 1:54 pm  #2158


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He said that he wasn't gay, which can include bi.  In this case, it clearly does because the sentence wouldn't make sense otherwise.  When Mrs Hudson looks surprised that he's marrying a woman, he says "Of course it's a woman", and when she suggests that Sherlock was his boyfriend, he says that he's not gay.   None of that makes sense if he isn't also denying being bi.  

Do people really hear it as saying that he's bi rather than straight?   Think about it - why would being bi be a reason his spouse has to be a woman, not a man? 

And I think he's the only main character who denies it, so funnily enough the one least likely to be bi.  Whereas anybody else (Mrs Hudson, Mycroft, Molly, etc.) could be. 

 

June 12, 2016 2:35 pm  #2159


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People deny stuff all the time just because they have no idea. Just sayin.

Meanwhile in 2___ Baker Street...



Does anybody actually live here? Where do these people go during setlock? Or is it empty all the years between Sherlock seasons?

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June 12, 2016 2:47 pm  #2160


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

The flat is often empty(and for sale) during series.
But there have been residents there during filming and they allow access to the door and hallway

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