kgreen20 wrote:

besleybean wrote:

Yeah, but they both have positive takes on her and there is the certain implication that meeting the love of her life made her good.

And that sounds good to me!  And John would not have asked her to marry him if he had not met the love of his life.

 

 
Just playing devil's advocate here:
Since it is repeatedly stated to be "love of life": are we sure we're not projecting on to John and Mary what we supposedly know about Martin and Amanda in real life?
Where exactly is this love shown?

besleybean wrote:

I think that shows a very low opinion of John.
This is a man of high moral standing who knows his own mind.
I also have to repeat: this is 21st century London, not Karachi.
He didn't HAVE to get married at all, he chose to.
He proposed, not like it was an arranged or forced marriage.

 
I don't think it shows a low opinion. He did not want to be alone anymore. That is still possible also nowadays. Have a look at the growing numbers of singles living in big cities, they are often not that happy and feel lonely.
I never read statements that it showed a low moral on Johns side to propose, just that it was hell akward and could be interpreted a bit halfheartedly.
The morals could be considered low when he forgives Mary the shooting.

I have a very high opinion of John Watson.  I also know that he was in a sad dark place after Sherlock's death.  Johnlock aside, he watched the most important person in his life commit suicide!  

Mary was able to help.  To start bringing him out of the darkness.  In his mind John knew he would never again find the sort of adventurous life he'd had with Sherlock so he made the choice to settle down and try and find comfort in a "normal" life.  This is not a judgement on John, just one way to view the situation and it is just as valid a possibility as your theory that John and Mary are the love of each other's life.

PS.  We know nothing absolute about their sex life either.  They may have shagged like bunnies, they may have done it twice a month with the lights off.  It only takes once to get pregnant.

What about in vitro fertilisation? John's a doctor, after all!
Okay, well, they wouldn't have been that surprised on their wedding then...... 

tonnaree wrote:

I have a very high opinion of John Watson.  I also know that he was in a sad dark place after Sherlock's death.  Johnlock aside, he watched the most important person in his life commit suicide!  

Mary was able to help.  To start bringing him out of the darkness.  In his mind John knew he would never again find the sort of adventurous life he'd had with Sherlock so he made the choice to settle down and try and find comfort in a "normal" life.  This is not a judgement on John, just one way to view the situation and it is just as valid a possibility as your theory that John and Mary are the love of each other's life.

That sounds very plausible to me. We see that John, in the end, is not content with a "normal" life. Not as long as Sherlock is alive and possibly also not without him. I think after TRF John was in a very dark place and Mary did help him come out of it in a relatively short time.
He loved her enough to want to spend the rest of his life with her, but he soon discovered that he could not find happiness in being "just" a husband and a doctor. He needs that soldier part of him satisfied. We see something similar in Mary, she wants to take part in John's and Sherlock's adventures, so we might say that she, too, cannot find happiness in "just" being a wife and a nurse.
I think their attraction to danger is what pulls them both to Sherlock. We have not seen a woman at John's side since Sarah who has been supportive of the relationship between John and Sherlock and only Mary have we ever seen actively encouraging it.
If John and Mary will be happier as the world's only assistant consulting detective and the assassin than they have been as the doctor and the nurse remains to be seen though.

To me, the biggest love scene between John and Mary is the shaving scene in TEH.

Vhanja wrote:

To me, the biggest love scene between John and Mary is the shaving scene in TEH.

I agree, and there's still not much of love to be seen. Some jealousy, some banter, and Sherlock, another man, is the centre of the conversation - instead of couple talk, as one might expect.
 

Harriet wrote:

Vhanja wrote:

To me, the biggest love scene between John and Mary is the shaving scene in TEH.

I agree, and there's still not much of love to be seen. Some jealousy, some banter, and Sherlock, another man, is the centre of the conversation - instead of couple talk, as one might expect.
 

I see it differently. I see a lot of chemistry, trust, closeness, intimacy and love in that scene and in their banter. 

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I'm sure they're capable of working it out for themselves.

I don't expect anything.
None of my business.
It's up to them.
All couples are different.
But there is absolutely no need for them to be together if they don't want to be.
They seem very comfy together.
They certainly move on from that scene to getting married and pregnant.
So things seem to be going pretty well.