ChrisHartwell wrote:

Even as Sherlock and The Abominable Bride’s journey into the past isn’t the series’ strongest adventure, the exploration of its title character, tethered to the present by his closest friend, remains ever riveting; as we behold these men’s need for the other, we are by extension shown man’s universal need for the other. Join me as I look closer: https://youtu.be/qCoAcjXKzLM

 
Chris!  Yes!  Nicely done!

Besley, you keep mentioning the commentary team going quiet during the plane landing scene... What do you mean? Is there a commentary?

Sorry, I just realised you were talking about HLV commentary (which I don't think I've heard yet). This is what you wrote:
Did you see what I'd said about now understanding why the commentary team were silent on the tarmac scene?!
I'll have to find a way to listen to it someday!

Last edited by ukaunz (January 5, 2016 9:12 am)

There's a commentary I need to listen to...

I don't know why some want a commentary so badly.
I like to find out by myself (and with the help of all the others here) what they want to tell us. Not just listen to them (and their lies).

Last edited by Mattlocked (January 5, 2016 9:54 am)

SusiGo wrote:

And it cannot be because it would mean you have to buy the DVD and listen to the commentaries to fully understand what you see. 

That would be poor for the show and for your own understanding and imagination. I can't see the problem. 
 

Last edited by gently69 (January 5, 2016 10:17 am)

The commentaries are fascinating!  I always like to have commentaries for films/TV that I really like - some of them are really good!  I'd rather have a commentary than a "making of".  They just seem to be usually more insightful, and of course, there is a much broader remit - I like hearing anecdotes about the people involved, for instance, rather than just how effects were achieved.    I think it's particularly good when the people talking are people who aren't often interviewed.  I suppose the commentaries are a kind of interview, but they seem to work really well - having the film playing seems to spark off the conversation.   I would definitely recommend them as a feature (if you're choosing which DVD to buy for some reason).  I don't really understand why people don't like them.  And I don't think they're ever presented as something that you must have to understand the show.    But they do give insights that you wouldn't otherwise have, such as explaining why they did something a certain way. 

I'm curious about why you don't like the ASIB one, Besleybean?  I thought it was pretty good, and it has Benedict in it!

Last edited by Liberty (January 5, 2016 10:33 am)

I have never said that I do not like them. I just said that I do not want or need them to understand the show but that they can be fun. And that I do not believe that anything crucial to understanding the show is said in them since it would require people to know them to understand the show. That is all. 

I like them. I just don't need them.
And yes, they can give a further insight, and that's okay.
But at first I want to think about it myself. And than - again - comments at Sherlock are not always the truth.
That's all I said.

Well all I know is that the next time I listen to a Sherlock commentary and they go silent like that...I will strongly suspect there is a lot more to the scene than meets the eye and we are going to get back to this later!
Because it was just so stark: other things they were talking about quite freely, the Watsons life etc.
But we got to the tarmac scene and just silence.

Well I do remember Mark and Benedict going a bit quite on the GG cliff hanger too.
But then what else could they say other than what they did: how do they get out of that, then?!
They also sometimes admit they just get so involved in watching the episode...or in Steven's case, obsessing about Martin's coat!
But of course, the difference with HLV, is that there are the Moriarty bits at the end...