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Yep, I knew who Rigsy was, already… that's what I meant with my (unspecific) mention of his 'debut episode' he met Clara in. I meant the part about not knowing of any connection of him to Danny, and how that 'wrapped up' that loose end?
And yes, Ashildr's 'contract', thanks. Caught most of that related to the Doctor and that Clara somehow 'bumped' her out, but wasn't sure why it couldn't be fixed. So, okay. Yeah, and a little convenient, huh? Eh, well. But she only really had 'special' powers because of that… what did the Doctor call it… device she was somehow entrusted with or acquired to take charge of the peace of the Street. But still… not a bad episode!
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Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood! I didn't get the Danny connection at all - completely missed that! I see what you mean now. So that's why they made a big thing about Rigsy having a baby! Well, it was completely over my head - doh!
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I completely missed that too.
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No, I thought it was as Moffat said, it was just another branch of the Pink family tree. Even though he's an orphan, he'd probably still have had other family. Rigsby's baby: I thought it was to make it more obvious why Clara would take such a risk to save him.
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I know! But that was kinda my point… I densely don't remember them mentioning any connection at all, to make it 'obvious' (for those of us who still remember that loose end, anyway…) I did find it kind of interesting/neat the Doctor's point of calling the baby 'brilliant', and whether Clara had that in mind or just nobly saving a friend who's a dad, I don't know, but kind of another one of their offhand 'this is cool to throw in but then we forgot about it' type things. Eh.
Just wonder if the people wanting their hands on him have anything to do with Gallifrey… can't wait!
(and whether they'll show an interesting reaction to when he gets back to the TARDIS!)
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Yeah I agree.
I'm really excited for the new episode too. He's trapped in a thingy? Gonna be interesting. Isn't Gallifrey unreachable though? The Doctor probably has enough enemies but I'm not familiar enough with DW to have any idea who it could have been. Missy perhaps?
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Well that episode (Heaven Sent) definitely had me in tears
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It was quite emotional... some good acting.
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Very emotional!! I couldn't see where it was going until it went there and then it made sense what he had to do to escape that place. Wow!
There were times, too, when the grief and loss felt by the Doctor (along with the inner communication with his 'best friend' to help him solve the problem) seemed like it could have been John after Sherlock's fall if Moffat had given free rein to it in a Sherlock script instead of Dr. Who. There was a lot of fan fiction after TRF that showed John locked in a 'castle of grief'.
This DW episode is going to stick with me for a long time.
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I hadn't actually realised this was a Moffat episode, when it first started....
I thought the opening sequence was outstanding.
So when his name came up at the titles, I thought : should have known, Steven is such a good writer!
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I've only just caught up with this episode today and I thought it was outstanding! It was good to see full use being made of Peter Capaldi, who was fantastic (I can't imagine Matt Smith, for instance, in that episode - not a criticism of him, but a very different kind of Doctor). This is possibly the best of the series, for me.
It kept niggling me, though, that it reminded me of something. There were lots of things that definitely did remind me of things - the music (LOVED the music!) felt like Beethoven's 7th (and so reminded me of the Beethoven bootstrap paradox!), the shadow hand reminded me of Nosferatu, the skull of Hamlet, the castle reminded me of the BBC adaptation of Ghormenghast (gothic fantasy), the moving walls reminded me of Maze Runner (yes, I know, not the most highbrow), the Doctor's tardis scenes reminded me of Sherlock's mind palace, etc. But the whole thing reminded me of something else, I don't know what. Very deja vu. I loved the feel of it, the lighting and the music, the clues along the way, and the ending.
I'm now only worried that the next episode will be a let down after this one! And also really, really worried that Capaldi will leave after the next series. He will be incredibly hard to replace.
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He will be...but haven't they all been?!
#lovePeterbutMatt'smyfave
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Liberty, I had the same sort of feeling I think... I definitely felt the similarities with Sherlock's mind palace. The moving walls reminded me of an app/game called Monument Valley (check it out, it's a work of art). The idea of the Grimm fairytale and what the Doctor had to do to escape reminded me of something else too, but I have no idea what. It was such a heartbreaking montage at the end there, and I am desperate for the next episode although I don't want the series to end!
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Grimm fairytales and following the breadcrumbs definitely made me think of Sherlock!
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Spoilers in reply to Liberty regarding the latest episode Heaven Sent
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So am I the only one who had this thought? Surely not!
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Wow... talk about emotional/good! Ha, and yes... after his 'it's Christmas!' line and the concept of the story, I also amusedly thought 'Moffat, you're not writing Sherlock right now!' ;)
My friend and I were giving the tv further and further 'the heck?' looks as it went on... intermixed of course with being completely swirled up by his emotion/dialogue, and deep metaphor of life/prisons of own making, and finally flabbergasted at what all he had to do and where it led.
The only thing that bugs me is, in the midst of feeling his pain and being more and more 'geez!' at what he had to do, was half-exclaiming 'why the heck didn't he bring the shovel along??' But, I know... the point is that he didn't remember, and when he had the shovel, he was in the middle of running away again. Just... ow.
Also... neat theory!