I would love for Mycroft and John to have a proper arch, but I still see the same problems in place as if he made a plan with Sherlock. I do not see how being in cohorts with Mycroft, instead of Sherlock, would help with that. That is not saying that all of Mycroft’s contacts would not be handy, but the critical point would be convincing Mary for a longer period of time and as far as we know, John is not a good actor.

The most likely option for a secret-Mary-plan I can see is Mycroft scheming in the background, not telling Sherlock or John. Mycroft is (as far as we know) in no way attached to Mary, emotionally or otherwise. They are only connected though John and Sherlock. I could imagine he was not pleased when he found out she was the starting point of a pressure point chain aimed at him. He already has one loose cannon to deal with – Sherlock - , he might be wanting to rid himself of a second one. I am not saying he necessarily would want to have her killed (Mycroft seems to like “neat” solutions, that avoid unnecessary bloodshed, even if it involves stealing an airplane worth of corpses), but I could imagine him wanting her out of the picture. But even that is pure speculation.

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I find it hard to stomach that as well. Does not make sense to me. The whole surgery/forgiveness business is the only element of the show I personally find completely unsatisfying if taken at face value. 

Swanpride wrote:

Since SHERLOCK is the one who encourages the love, I don't see a problem.

How many times was Sherlock wrong in season 3, though?

SusiGo wrote:

Is John really presented as "Petey Pureheart"? I doubt it. 

That's why I added the qualifier-- "relatively". In relation to Sherlock, yeah-- Petey Pureheart. :-)

Swanpride wrote:

That is just as terrible...it would mean that John allowed Sherlock to risk his life in confronting Magnussen on Mary's behalf. Plus, if he had really a plan, he would have told to Magnussen to shove off then and there instead of allowing him to flick him into the face for Mary's sake (that must be really aggevating...Martin Freeman said that he was close to punching the actor of Magnussen, and he was just pretending).
Honestly, the more we discuss different scenatios, the more I hope that Mary is simply in love with John and John is simply in love with Mary. Because every other scenario would make me hate the characters.

 
I would find that mind-numbingly dull.

SusiGo wrote:

I do not want to open Pandora's box - would become OT soon - but over the episodes there are quite some instances showing John in a darker light, sometimes in even in contrast to Sherlock. 

I would Reeeeeaaaaaaaalllllly love to discuss this, so hold that thought. Maybe another thread? 

SusiGo wrote:

Any idea where to put it? In here?

http://sherlock.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=230154#p230154

Sounds good!

SusiGo wrote:

Okay. See you over there. 

So much awesomeness today! Thank you, SusiGo!

or Sherlock's. Let's hope so!

Tonnaree - I'm totally up for that version too!! Mary out of the picture + BAMF/Knight in shining armour John = HEAVEN!