Brilliant!

nakahara, noooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!!!! What about John? Will he be stuck with Mary forever?!

tobeornot221b wrote:

Schmiezi wrote:

maryagrawatson wrote:

There were two Moriarities in the original Holmes stories (...)

Seriously? Mentioned where? 

Yes, there are two Moriartys - if not three:

"The stories give contradictory indications about Moriarty's family. In his first appearance in "The Final Problem", Moriarty is referred to as "Professor Moriarty" — no forename is mentioned. Watson does, however, refer to the name of another family member when he writes of "the recent letters in which Colonel James Moriarty defends the memory of his brother". In "The Adventure of the Empty House", Holmes refers to Moriarty on one occasion as "Professor James Moriarty". This is the only time Moriarty is given a first name, and oddly, it is the same as that of his purported brother; to wit The Valley of Fear (written after the preceding two stories, but set earlier), Holmes says of Professor Moriarty: "He is unmarried. His younger brother is a station master in the west of England."[12]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Moriarty

 

They could have Professor Robert Moriarty from William Gillette's stage play "Sherlock Holmes: a Drama in Four Acts" (1899)

Whisky wrote:

lol, nakahara... I never thought about it, but I think Jim would be the only crime-solving partner I could see in John's place :D They could go into pairs... Sherl and Jim against John and Mary, and let's see who solves it quicker/ offers the better puzzle. lol.

Good idea! 
 

Hmmm.... but if Sherlock and Jim would start quarreling about which one of them is superior, they would never stop. John and Mary can meanwhile slowly and lamely, but with perseverance, gradually solve the puzzles. Like a patient turtle who outran the careless rabbitt. 

Whisky wrote:

nakahara wrote:

Like a patient turtle who outran the careless rabbitt. 

I try to picture this. I fail :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare


 

That is simultaneously hilarious and terrifying.

I blame the umbrella. It was so very Mycroft-ish...
And the tea tray kept saying "Hudders, Hudders"
 

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I know...but I'm just wondering if any of my previous google alerts have blurted things like this before, that haven't happened...though maybe there just hasn't been as much speculation as over this series!

I think that there's a suggestion in TAB that Mary is Moriarty, never mind just working for him - but it could be a red herring.  

Yes, I think emotion getting the better of Sherlock is very possible and has precedent, but the thing with Mary is that that's already happened - he has misread her, then had a huge eyeopener and (you would imagine) been able to see things more clearly.   It doesn't quite make sense for him to still be making the same mistake.  

Mary working for Moriarty previously does make sense - it has always seemed a bit of a coincidence that she just happened to be working with John, and it would explain what's on the memory stick that she feels would stop him loving her.   However, if it's on the memory stick, I don't think she can currently be working for Moriarty, because why would Mary let John see that?  She'd know he'd turn her in right away to Sherlock.  

There's also, the idea I know we've mentioned before, of Mary and Moriarty being twins.  (It's never twins!).   Perhaps her original intent was revenge, or perhaps it was to take over Moriarty's work.  But again, I don't know if she'd have that on the memory stick, and give it to John. 

I have lots more thoughts ... not following this train of thought at all, but one thing that keeps sticking with me from TAB is that it seemed to me that Sherlock was investigating his own faked suicide rather than Moriarty's.  It was Sherlock who stood at the top of the building and made a show of suicide, it was Sherlock who used a "fake" body, who used Molly (Hooper) to procure the body, etc.  And then, also, at the end, when he's just shown how somebody can fake suicide, he says that he knows Moriarty is dead.