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June 15, 2015 9:23 pm  #4561


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Very subtle 


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June 15, 2015 9:28 pm  #4562


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Harriet wrote:

Very subtle

Easy to miss if you're not paying close attention.  


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June 16, 2015 7:50 am  #4563


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Lovely 


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"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

June 16, 2015 3:22 pm  #4564


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Just as an aside: Is it not strange that most essays and articles claiming a non-sexual strictly *romantic relationship between the boys were written pre-series 3? (Which does not mean that there are not heaps of subtext before that but still). 


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June 16, 2015 3:29 pm  #4565


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

That is a very interesting point, thank you for drawing our attention to it. I never paid close attention as to the publishing dates.


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

June 16, 2015 3:57 pm  #4566


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Here's another Johnlock song for you all 



 

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-Could you whisper...?
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June 16, 2015 4:18 pm  #4567


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Thank you, I didn't need my heart anyway....
What I like about this thread is that we not (only) drool about Johnlock being something sexual, it is more often way way more. It is about true love. 


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

June 16, 2015 4:24 pm  #4568


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes. And this is nothing that should be belittled in comparison to non-sexual friendship. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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June 16, 2015 4:42 pm  #4569


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

SusiGo wrote:

Yes. And this is nothing that should be belittled in comparison to non-sexual friendship. 

 
Amen and pass the biscuits.


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I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

June 16, 2015 10:17 pm  #4570


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

YES! I love that too. It really is so much more beyond that. I mean, I don't hurt for them for not doing the deed, my heart aches because of the great love that they have for each other. How they care so deeply, love so deeply but none of them can see it from the others perspective. I don't need it to be explicit love making, I will squee even more when they finaly just get it!


 

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June 17, 2015 4:54 am  #4571


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

You are so right, Lazarus.
And I never got why some people constantly need to stress how much better and more valuable and special a non-sexual friendship between them would be... where is this coming from? Both kind of relationships are special and wonderful if they happen between the right people. The thing just is that I'm not seeing any (excuse me for using the word) "bromance" between Sherlock and John. If other people are seeing it, fine. But why do they feel the need to play one thing off against the other? I'll never get that.


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June 17, 2015 5:25 am  #4572


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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June 17, 2015 6:53 am  #4573


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Fine. I was quite happy until this moment. 

As for the other subject we discussed: I think some people simply cannot accept the idea of sacred Sherlock Holmes being in love with a man. Full stop. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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June 17, 2015 7:16 am  #4574


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

SusiGo wrote:

Fine. I was quite happy until this moment. 

As for the other subject we discussed: I think some people simply cannot accept the idea of sacred Sherlock Holmes being in love with a man. Full stop. 

Agree wholeheartedly. And the find of a pair of actors with the most sparkling chemistry - more sparkling and interesting than any other chemistry on this show - was a gift.
And I'm not saying that there are tons and tons of pairings on screen who can pull off a convincing love story. But these two could.


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

June 17, 2015 7:24 am  #4575


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes. And the fact alone that it has never been done on screen should be an incentive for Moftiss. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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June 17, 2015 7:54 am  #4576


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes, he loves to do things differently, "Doctor Who" is proof of that. And he basically invented Jack Harkness. 


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"Am I the current King of England?

"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

June 17, 2015 7:57 am  #4577


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Oh, yes, lovely Captain Jack. 

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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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June 17, 2015 8:02 am  #4578


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Just because...



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"Am I the current King of England?

"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

June 17, 2015 8:03 am  #4579


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

You're a bad bad girl, Solar...


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

June 17, 2015 8:04 am  #4580


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

What did I do now...??!!! 






Oh, I know, I'm off topic... 


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"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

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