Wholocked wrote:

vicjperry wrote:

Remember, we NEVER saw Sherlock talking on cell with his feet on the ledge.

WE didn't, but John did.

Exactly.

I know there's a lot of people who believe in the "doppleganger" theory, but I just can't. I don't really see how these writers would justify the use of a double after the way the conversation between John and Sherlock is showed. Yes, you can say we don't see Sherlock clearly enough from John's point of view, but there are enough frames passing from one to another that really make very difficult for me to think that was not Sherlock in the ledge talking to John.

I agree to a certain extent. But I think carrying a dead body up to the roof, holding it and tossing it away down to the ground is too risky; someone might have seen him doing it, even Watson!

My guess is that he did jump off the roof, but he fell on a contraption (maybe a mattress held outside a window, allowing him to roll inside the room) without reaching the ground. When Sherlock was secured, Molly's team (on ground level) threw the corpse that looks like Sherlock onto the floor, complete with blood effect. They worked very quickly and whisked the body away when Watson came near to it, to avoid suspicions.

Last edited by Shark_Blade (July 30, 2012 9:03 am)

Yet John saw the body up close and actually touched the wrist checking for a pulse. It seems hard to believe that they used another dead body and it could fool John. The crowd surrounding the hospital would have to give statements to the police. Their description of the man would not fit Sherlock's unless they found a great look-a-like. Plus why have Sherlock have this long drawn out discussion with John to work up his emotional state? He could have called John and said goodbye and jumped to achieve the same effect if there was not a reason for it, unless the setup for the trick was being put into place during their conversation and he was buying time.

To me, the writers had John check for a pulse to rule out a Sherlock dummy being the way Sherlock avoids death, as he did in The Empty House.

Last edited by Lupin (July 30, 2012 11:05 pm)

Well, there was a famous case a while ago..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147737/Whitney-Cerak-Mistaken-identity-teenager-family-believed-died-car-crash-weds-baby.html

I actually ended up buying the book seeking to understand how this could possibly happen in the modern time and age. Anyway, it is possible!

Also, most likely Mycroft would have done the second confirmation in the mortuary, as this would have been another chance for John to understand what is going on.

"there would be some evidence of it"

That's our point but it is clear you are not sharing our opinions - lol.

"and dead men also don't bleed"
well, that recently deceased ones kinda do, in fact.

Interesting.