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March 19, 2012 12:53 pm  #1


What happened to Moriarty's body?

It wasn't mentioned in the newspapers or on the news report on John's blog. If the body had been found on the rooftop then it would have been mentioned, either as a double suicide or perhaps Sherlock might have been accused of murdering him (although post-mortem & fingerprints would prove that Moriarty/Richard Brook shot himself).

So the question is, if the body wasn't found...where did it go to? We can assume that Moriarty is dead...so he didn't get up and walk off. Someone must have removed it. But who?


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March 19, 2012 1:03 pm  #2


Re: What happened to Moriarty's body?

Molly.

Unless Mycroft had another flight of the dead to fill seats for. He'd make a shockingly bad travel agent.


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March 19, 2012 1:18 pm  #3


Re: What happened to Moriarty's body?

Moriarty is dead. MoGiss said, that they have no intention to bring him back; and in the original story, he also dies. The lack of gore, cited by many as an argument for M's survival, is simply due to BBC policy, that no spattered brain can be shown in this kind of tv show. Kids might be watching.
I always had the hunch, that M might have gone into Sherlock's grave ('I am You; You are Me'), since they needed a body for the funeral, and Molly might have helped.Thus Moriarty/Brook would just disappear, and nobody would know, what happened to him. But it's also possible, that this might go down as the suicide of desperately traumatized actor Rich Brook, and Sherlock will be blamed for it, making his own suicide even more plausible. Considering, that the police will certainly investigate the roof and find at least traces of blood (Molly can't very well clean everything in such a short time on a tar roof) I favour the second possibility at the moment. The tv audience just hasn't been told about the relevant news articles yet. This scenario of course raises the question, if Sherlock's grave is empty, and if not, whose body is buried there.

 

March 19, 2012 1:22 pm  #4


Re: What happened to Moriarty's body?

@Sherlock Holmes : could you upload the Video here, pls? because as usual, BBC only give permission for several country to watch it (and my country definitely the one) X)


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March 19, 2012 1:25 pm  #5


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Ha, ha, kazza! Never book a flight with  Holmes Airlines, lol!

 

March 19, 2012 1:30 pm  #6


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theCuriousOne wrote:

@Sherlock Holmes : could you upload the Video here, pls? because as usual, BBC only give permission for several country to watch it (and my country definitely the one) X)

I've posted all the videos from John's blog in another thread in this section.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

March 19, 2012 1:31 pm  #7


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sherlocked wrote:

Ha, ha, kazza! Never book a flight with  Holmes Airlines, lol!

Yes, they don't have "red eye' flights , they specialise in dead eye flights.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

March 19, 2012 1:47 pm  #8


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And they might advertise: 'We Have Your Carcass!'

 

March 19, 2012 2:14 pm  #9


Re: What happened to Moriarty's body?

But how would Molly know to go up onto the roof? Sherlock didn't know that Moriarty was going to kill himself, so he wouldn't have been able to prearrange it with Molly or Mycroft or anyone else. The only thing I can think of was that he'd already told Molly he was going to drop his phone (for whatever reason), and that Molly was to come up and collect it. Then of course, she'd see the body anyway and decide to do something about it.


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March 19, 2012 2:44 pm  #10


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How could Molly know about dead M? I thought about that a lot, too. If my second theory, that the whole thing will go down as Rich Brook's suicide, is correct, this is not a problem. She doesn't have to know.
Otherwise there is the possibility, that S phoned Molly and told her to remove M's body (which won't be possible without Molly having some help, of course, since M was not fat but a grown up man), and tv just did not show this phone call. For me, that's the least likely scenario. Also I cannot imagine, that Molly would  arrange a cover up on her own accord, since she was probably ALREADY assisting Sherlock to go underground, so there was no need to protect him from any kind of short term consequences.
Or S had always planned for M to be dead, suicide or otherwise, and had made arrangements with Molly (and other helpers) beforehand, what to do with the body. The possibility, that Sherlock had always planned M to be dead, is appealing, because in the original story Holmes is more actively involved in Moriarty's death and triggers his fall by applying some kind of martial arts movements, called 'baritsu' by Doyle. It would also fit in neatly with his talk about not being his brother(who let M go after the interrogation), being on the side of the angels, but not being one of them, and being ready to shake hands with M in hell. Also, since S planned his own fake death in advance, he must have had some plan, how to prevent M from discovering the fake(if the fake was visible from the edge of the roof top, that is). If he planned him to be dead, this would not be a problem. The big question here is, how he planned him to die, because triggering a suicide is a VERY unpredictable procedure - unless you have a REAL good instrument for applying pressure, like the cabbie from SiP, or like M himself, who turned S's friends into hostages. Also S seemed to be genuinely shocked by M's sudden suicide.

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March 19, 2012 3:29 pm  #11


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I took some time during the weekend to check out the blog 'The Final Problem' (kazza helpfully provided the link). While the author comes across as being a little  full of herself at times (but I guess, 'Sherlock' attracts this kind of personality, lol), she has done an excellent job at gathering a wealth of info. And there are always very interesting questions asked. One of them came up today: If Molly is really involved, the way we think, in helping to pull off Sherlock's fake death, she commits a serious crime, which definitely will be discovered, when Sherlock returns well and alive. I can barely see Mycroft preventing a full fledged prosecution, but her good name will be ruined, no matter what. Wonder, how they will get out of this one, or if they will just apply tv logic and not address it at all.

 

October 7, 2012 4:09 pm  #12


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But if she is said to be working for the government...or they do use Moriarty's body.


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