When I was a child, it was more polite to say that people "had it off".  And kissing/getting together with somebody was "getting off".  As in "Do you think John will ever get off with Sherlock?"  "Oh, I think they've already had it off, while we weren't watching."

Last edited by Liberty (January 6, 2015 7:33 am)

Can I just clarify for those of you unaware.
For me, it was never about the use/misuse of 'bad 'words.
The point was I(a while ago) used the first word in a John/Mary context and was immediately criticised,
The word was later used in a Johnlock context, nobody complained, but I kindly let it slide that time.
But when last night it was used again, in the same context  and still there was no crirticism, I felt I was in my rights to mention the situation.

I tried searching for it(yes, I know hysterical, huh?!)but failed to find it...
I really don't want to have to get to the point of keeping my own personal log of these instances! Though I guess I may have to, if I was ever faced with expulsion from the forum.
But it did happen and last night I knew that was at least the 2nd time the same word had been used by a Johnlocker, with no criticism...
But sorry, an absolute YES, it could have been a joke or just a comment...but I hope you can also see my point about even-handedness,.
I seem to remember the comment was about it being rude and I have to add, I immediately apologised.

Last edited by besleybean (January 6, 2015 9:06 am)

I am basically fine with it. But then I am not a native speaker. Maybe one could ask the other mods and the boss how they feel about it. 
If we use it, we can use it for all characters.

*eagerly awaits the final verdict on Shagging*

I am very hard trying to get back to the topic. Um, what was it? I think the last thing we were discussing was "Is the tarmac scene a nod to Casablanca and if yes, why?" or "Did Irene imply John loves Sherlock?"

My answer to the last one would be "yes".

To be frank, to me it sounds very strange that the Johnlock context should make words more or less acceptable. I don't see any connection at all and can't see why someone should make it up.

I re-phrase:
Did Irene imply that John is in love with Sherlock?

And my answer still is "Yes."
 

Whatever she's implying it's a fait accompli - she doesn't say "you will be a couple" or "you want to be a couple" but "you are a couple".   And I take it as more about them being a unit - it's something specific about their relationship.  If she'd wanted to say "you're in love with him", she'd have said it.  Instead she went for something much more ambiguous.    (You could be a couple without being in love, and in love without being a couple). 

Of course, it could be that she genuinely misunderstands and thinks that they are (already?) in a sexual relationship - a kind of continuation of the "gay jokes".  That doesn't seem so likely to me, though (she sees that they sleep apart, for instance). 

Just as an aside - I do think John "falls" for Sherlock - I don't think we have a word for it that distinguishes that euphoric feeling from the non-platonic version - as well as loving him. 

I think they have something inbetween that I don't think there's a word for. There is far more between them just friendship. But neither do I think it's a sexual attraction. It's someting in the middle of that.