Is Martin naturally darkhaired?

I always percieved him as a blonde - but his beard is dark here.
(Althrough, in "Hitchhiker´s guide to the galaxy" he was brownhaired if I remember it right.)

Last edited by nakahara (December 17, 2014 2:45 pm)

Martin's beard was quite gingery.

Sorry for double post, but I just thought of something:

Benedict and Martin have been asked a lot of stupid stuff, and have had to deal with a lot of stupid stuff, regarding Johnlock fandom/fanfic/fanarts. So I was thinking that even if Moftiss had planned to make Johnlock happened in the future, the two actors might put their foot down and say no. 

Considering what they've been through already because of this, I can't imagine the ton of nagger and crap they would have to go through if Sherlock and John actually became an item. So I wouldn't be surprised if they simply said they wouldn't do it.

I don't think neither Benedict nor Martin has issues playing a gay character, not at all. Neither of them are homophobic, quite the opposite. I just think they might hesitate to do it in THIS setting. I mean - they have already had explicit fanfics and fanart stuffed under their noses to create entertainment for the media. Not to mention insane fans talking about Benedict's engagement being a PR stunt and that he can't say anything about it because Martin is his "dom". (Yes, there are crazy people out there).

Lord only knows how this will escalate if Johnlock actually happened.

SusiGo wrote:

There will always be crazy fans in any fandom and for any celebrity but if you listen to them you lose your artistic freedom. 

That is very true. And I hope they don't.
 

Provided that Benedict and Martin are truly being misled. As I said before, it is very odd how repetitive and shallow Benedict's statements about Sherlock are compared to him talking in depth about other parts. He has said more interesting things about being a wolf or a dragon than about playing Sherlock.

You see him playing such a nuanced part but when he talks about it he leaves out all the interesting things. Has he ever talked about the mind palace scene and Sherlock coming back from the dead? About his reaction on the dancefloor in TSOT? The missing chair? The tarmac scene? I do not remember anything like that. 

 

From what the actors have said, it seems that they're not playing it as Johnlock.  This interview with Mark Gatiss is being talked about, and I think it makes his intentions a lot clearer (the "Johnlock" part starts around 11 minutes in). 


If that's the message the actors are getting, then of course it's misleading if they're suddenly told they've been acting "Johnlock" all along.   I know that occasionally film-making works like this (Amanda being kept in the dark is a case in point), but they're both very talented actors and have been doing this for a long time - I think they'd be entitled to feel a little aggrieved that they'd been deceived, when they could maybe have done much more with the parts.  I still think they'd do it, though!

Anyway, the youtube link is interesting, but that part in particular makes it clear - Mark explains the root of the "gay jokes" (it was a reference to The Private Lives of Sherlock Holmes), and says that although there's a need for more openly gay couples on TV, it's not going to happen in Sherlock. 

(And as I've said before, it would hardly be the best representation to have them in the closet for three series'!). 

And how lovely to see that folks in India adore Johnlock just about the same 

I think I read that Johnlock is more popular outside than inside the UK (but don't quote me!  I can't remember where I read it, and I may have imagined it). 

For those who can't watch it, somebody has kindly posted a transcript of that bit on tumblr(it's OK to post tumblr links, isn't it?). 

If we had an agenda of making Sherlock and Dr Watson an openly gay couple that’s what we would have done, but that’s not what we’re doing. That’s not what we’re doing.  And it’s perfect- I’m very happy everybody thinks what they like, but it’s. never. going. to. happen.  No, I’m not joking, it’s not. The point of the series is not to make them an openly gay couple, and as I said the danger is - people say but why, they should be, because we need more openly gay couples in television. Yes we do, but this is our show, and we’re just making a decision about our characters, I’d be very happy to write another show in which there is an openly gay couple and that’s what it’s about, but it’s not this one

(There's a bit more to it than that, but you get the gist of it).

Last edited by Liberty (December 22, 2014 6:04 pm)

Yeah, it's what I always thought they were going for (or NOT going for) too. 

The only shippers who really could open the champagne and celebrate was Dumbledore/Grindelwald.