Vhanja wrote:

I think it has to do with the scenes that where shown. First pictures before the church - can't speak to anyone there. Then the best man speech - John and Mary can't speak with anyone else there either. After that, things go a bit crazy with Major Sholto, and then it's the dance. Bride and groom dance first, but I am sure that after Sherlock left, they spoke with other people. It just wasn't something they could do in the scenes shown. I've been to several weddings, and it's not easy at all for the bride and groom to mingle with everybody.

But those scenes don't just appear out of thin air. Someone made the decision to show us exactly this and nothing else. If they had wanted to, they could have given us something else as well. Of course it's fiction, but doesn't it strike you as odd that people who don't even belong to the family like Lestrade, Molly and her boyfriend are sitting at one of the front tables? Of course that's because the audience knows them and wants to see them instead of some extras, but still.

As for the chemistry between Mary and John, I can only agree with mrshouse here. For me it's just a claim without any content. I see them together, but I feel nothing. Interestingly enough, the moment I actually do feel something between them is during the scene in 221B in HLV when John almost can't contain his anger. That's an emotion right there. But love...? Nope.
 

Vhanja wrote:

Well, it's impossible for me to explain what I see. Perhaps it's Martin and Amanda shining through? I really don't know, but I just love the way they talk to each other.
 

Yes, you are right! It might be them shining through! But is that what you need in regards to Mary and John? They are not a couple sharing their lives already for a decade and rising two children.

As I said before, I do not see any love between John and Mary. Funny banter, being comfortable with each other, yes, but where is the romance? After all, they play a couple freshly in love, not people who have been married for ages. And this is not or should not be about the relationship between Martin and Amanda. 

I don't know about the other ladies but after 6 months I was still pretty much in love and not settled...Like Ben and Sophie now...(funny it's comparable timewise...).
So no, I agree with Susi, that should have been a different approach than just being comfortable with each other.

BTW since we keep derailing in this thread over the last days I wonder if anybody is interested in a new thread discussing the impacts of the ultrahard and rabid fanbase on the show, especially considering shipping real life persons , the impact on the real life of couples as Martin and Amanda , and thus the impact that it might have on creative decisions of the show .
I'm a bit uncertain, because this should definetely not cause hate or negative vibes, maybe some of you feel that it's too much discussion about the privat persons involved (which should be kept out of this forum). Or just don't see the points.

You are right, it is, but what kept me thinking over the last days were more recent impressions, like Martin keeping to mention that he's not a couple with Benedict (well, of course not!) and Amanda not being his beard (No!), Martin obviously mentioning that this influences his private life and is no fun for him anymore. Does this have impact on the show decisions for the worse? Do the nerds out there spoil our fun?
It's a bit tricky to discuss this without also mentioning what you don't like.

A beard is the wife of a gay man who has married only for the sake of disguising his orientation. 

As for the thread - it is interesting but could become heated very soon. It is always dangerous to mix up the actors' private lives with the show even if they influence each other. Not sure about that … 

I had to look that up in a diary as well...
It means he's not a closeted homosexual using a partner of the opposite sex for disguise.
And yes, that was exactly my point about the chemistry of Martin and Benedict being deliberately turned down to make a point, maybe also with the help of keeping the character of Mary in. But that is my personal opinion.

Vhanja wrote:

It's horrible if this has gone so far that Martin felt he had to say something like that. 

I agree, it is.
@Susi, yes, that is why I'm biased as well. But since the posts of a lovely light I kept thinking that this developement of mingling private lives and Sherlock might be very well on its way. And not for the best of the show. There is not just our lovely forum...
 

mrshouse wrote:

You are right, it is, but what kept me thinking over the last days were more recent impressions, like Martin keeping to mention that he's not a couple with Benedict (well, of course not!) and Amanda not being his beard (No!), Martin obviously mentioning that this influences his private life and is no fun for him anymore. Does this have impact on the show decisions for the worse? Do the nerds out there spoil our fun?
It's a bit tricky to discuss this without also mentioning what you don't like.

 
I only wanted to add one little thing.

After Richard III I think Martin has proven he needs absolutly no help in the beard department.