Ah, I missed that, BB!  I'll have to get the book out again.  Wow - that is a huge departure!  Sherlock seemed to be certain that Mrs Hudson wasn't in danger, and be planning to meet Moriarty on the roof.   Unless he knew that Moriarty would arrange the fake call - or guessed once he heard it - which is very possible. 

I think it's clear that Sherlock would have needed John out of the way and on the ground for the planned-in-advance "suicide", though, so if Moriarty hadn't made the call, Sherlock would have had to have arranged something.  He couldn't have John up on the roof with them. 

Yes, that makes sense, Silverblaze.  Sherlock had to know.    I wonder if there was a Plan B if Moriarty didn't phone, of if Sherlock was absolutely sure that he would?  I suppose that Sherlock has to work so closely to Moriarty's agenda at this point, and Moriarty couldn't have had John on the roof during that conversation.   So Sherlock would have known that Moriarty would have to get John out of the way. 

Deleted script? Where? Chronicles? 

besleybean wrote:

The deleted script has Sherlock saying to Moriarty: you were so obvious, you needed John out of the way.

I'll be d*****!

This is the first bit of background on TRF that is helping me get a sense of what was going on on the roof and that Sherlock might have actually been a step ahead of Moriarty!

I can't wait to get my hands on this book!

Mary

I understand John completely. Why not let John in on it? After the jump, the first grief and the funeral, I doubt there were anyone spying on John to see if he.... looks happy? I don't get it at all. 

Watching him for what? John would go about his daily life either way, the only difference being that he would've known Sherlock was alive. 

It makes no sense to me. It's not like John would start dancing on his way to work in the morning. 

He could still do both those things. And even if he did stop seeing his counsellor, and even if he didn't look depressed (you won't necessarily see it on a person that they're depressed, it's fully possible to lead a normal life, smile to the neightbour and do some chitchat while being depressed), that didn't have to be a sign Sherlock wasn't dead.

So, no, I don't buy it I think it was inexusable to let John grieve for two years.

Last edited by Vhanja (December 14, 2014 3:46 pm)

So we have the inexusable behaviour of letting John go through hell for two years. Then he is so caught up in his own bubble that he can't fathom why John wouldn't be happy to see him. Even though he lacks the social skills to understand that by himself, Mycroft do tell him this. And Sherlock dismisses it - because everything revolves around him. 

And then, seeing John's reactions, he starts feeling guilty. And feeling guilty is not a good feeling, so Sherlock wants to get rid of it. Getting John's forgivess will help him get rid of it. So he stages the worst kind of emotional blackmail to a man who has several times already experienced the trauma of nearly dying. Because getting rid of his own guilt and restore emotional equlibrum is for Sherlock much more important than the trauma he puts John through.

I think he should consider himself lucky getting away with a bloody nose and bruised lip.

Good to hear.