BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012.
- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline 
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,342
Re: The Imitation Game
I watched it this morning and it was very good...
He's also on the front cover of the magazine of (and a good inteview inside)the Scotland on Sunday newspaper..
I don't do scans...I don't know if people can see it on line.
Oh, here:
Last edited by besleybean (November 9, 2014 4:09 pm)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Sherlock Holmes
- Administrator
Offline
- From: 221B Baker Street
- Registered: February 7, 2012
- Posts: 5,162
Re: The Imitation Game
I'm really excited about seeing the movie. I'm going with my friend on her birthday, coming up soon. Already planning an Alan Turing cosplay.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.
Independent OSAJ Affiliate
- tonnaree
- The "B" is SILENT! (Mod)
Offline
- From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
- Registered: May 31, 2013
- Posts: 9,270
Re: The Imitation Game
Finally bought the book and ended up getting the new movie tie in edition.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.
Honorary German
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
-Vaclav Havel
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong." Melissa Ethridge
I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,342
Re: The Imitation Game
The book looks good and boss, I can't wait to see the cosplay!
My pal got me all excited, by acccidentally telling me we were seeing the film this Friday...
I then realised she'd got confused(she's even older than me!), because that's the release date.
We do really see it on the 21st.
I'm making a presentation at work that day(which I'm dreading), so the film will be big relief afterwards!
Hang on...no the release date is the 12th, isn't it?!
Last edited by besleybean (November 10, 2014 6:56 am)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- SusiGo
- The game is never over (moderator)
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 5, 2012
- Posts: 22,965
Re: The Imitation Game
Here are the audience questions from the Q & A at the Screen Actors Guild. Wonderful insights into filming but please beware of spoilers:
------------------------------
"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- SusiGo
- The game is never over (moderator)
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 5, 2012
- Posts: 22,965
Re: The Imitation Game
And an interesting article about Joan Clarke:
------------------------------
"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,342
Re: The Imitation Game
Good stuff.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- REReader
- Mycroft's Contact
Offline
- Registered: July 29, 2014
- Posts: 519
Re: The Imitation Game
Yes, indeed!
____________________
"Oh, you meant 'spectacularly ignorant' in a NICE way."
- MartaSt
- On The Side Of The Angels
Offline
- From: Poland
- Registered: May 1, 2014
- Posts: 1,021
Re: The Imitation Game
Very good article.
***************************************************************************************************************************
"Hey, chief, I might be wrong, but I think we're flying into a mountain. This makes me feel... scared of the mountain.
One thing we could do is pull up and fly over the mountain. How does that sound to..."
- SolarSystem
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: July 30, 2013
- Posts: 10,650
Re: The Imitation Game
I'm not sure anybody wants to see (and hear!) this, but here is the dubbed German trailer for TIG. In my opinion Alan sounds like the german Sherlock - it's the same dubbing actor and he just talks like Sherlock would talk. I already expected it to be a difficult job to dub Benedict in this film, but it seems they didn't even try to come in any way close to what Benedict did... 
___________________________________________________
"Am I the current King of England?
"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"
- Liberty
- Moderator
Offline
- Registered: June 29, 2014
- Posts: 5,959
Re: The Imitation Game
Is that the way it will normally be shown in Germany? We don't get to see many dubbed films here in the UK. Usually non-English films have subtitles (which I prefer).
- SusiGo
- The game is never over (moderator)
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 5, 2012
- Posts: 22,965
Re: The Imitation Game
Yes, in Germany everything is dubbed. Some cinemas show the original version with subtitles but most do not and in television everything is dubbed. They often to their jobs quite well but it is not the same experience.
And changing a character's way of speaking like they apparently have done with Turing is really terrible. The voice is too deep - Benedict himself speaks in a higher voice than usual - and it seems they completely ignored the stammer he took such pains to recreate. No idea why. I remember they kept Derek Jacobi's famous stammer in "I Claudius". This is an important part of recreating a character.
------------------------------
"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- SolarSystem
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: July 30, 2013
- Posts: 10,650
Re: The Imitation Game
Maybe it was too subtle for them to realize how essential it is? I just had to think of a film like "Rain Man", where you really can't ignore that Dustin Hoffmann has a very special way of speaking. Maybe Benedict's Alan isn't obvious enough...?
___________________________________________________
"Am I the current King of England?
"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"
- SusiGo
- The game is never over (moderator)
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 5, 2012
- Posts: 22,965
Re: The Imitation Game
Well, I would have assumed that the actor would at least take a close look at the film and realise as a professional that there is something different to Benedict's way of speaking. The same goes for a German scriptwriter or translator or whatever they call them. I have seen only a few scenes and his manner of speaking is quite conspicuous.
------------------------------
"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- SolarSystem
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: July 30, 2013
- Posts: 10,650
Re: The Imitation Game
You are right of course. I was trying to find excuses... god, why would I do that? 
___________________________________________________
"Am I the current King of England?
"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"
- SusiGo
- The game is never over (moderator)
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 5, 2012
- Posts: 22,965
Re: The Imitation Game
Just stupidity or lack of care. Like Siezlock.
------------------------------
"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- gently69
- One More Miracle
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: November 18, 2013
- Posts: 6,646
Re: The Imitation Game
Definitely lack of care. It is obvious in the original, the way Benedict speaks as Turing. Impossible to not notice. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ten:" I'm burning up a sun just to say goodbye."
Sherlock: "I heard you.”
"Temptation coursing through our veins "
(Tony Hadley)
- SolarSystem
- Threatened Knighthood
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: July 30, 2013
- Posts: 10,650
Re: The Imitation Game
One can only hope that they dubbed the trailer before they had the chance to look at the whole film... maybe they later realized their mistake and it'll be different in the movie. Wouldn't it be nice?
___________________________________________________
"Am I the current King of England?
"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"
- mrshouse
- Stayin' Alive
Offline
- Registered: January 16, 2014
- Posts: 3,802
Re: The Imitation Game
In the German language we say that hope dies last...
Is it similar in English?
------------------------------------------------------------
Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.
"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you" - Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.
- tonnaree
- The "B" is SILENT! (Mod)
Offline
- From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
- Registered: May 31, 2013
- Posts: 9,270
Re: The Imitation Game
mrshouse wrote:
In the German language we say that hope dies last...
Is it similar in English?
A lot of times we say "Keep hope alive"!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.
Honorary German
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
-Vaclav Havel
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong." Melissa Ethridge
I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
