BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 » Johnlock: The Official Debate

besleybean · September 20, 2014 2:49 pm

He could have been bristly in Canon

SolarSystem · September 20, 2014 3:02 pm

Harriet wrote:
Clean-shaven, that is. Not bristly

He could always help his doctor to shave...

Harriet · September 20, 2014 3:04 pm

I'm sure he does, whenever requested

SolarSystem · September 20, 2014 3:09 pm

I'm sure this belongs in THE OTHER thread...

besleybean · September 20, 2014 3:24 pm

Does it?!

Liberty · September 21, 2014 4:10 pm

I wonder if there's a way to work that into the TV series (given the NHS, etc.)? I suppose they could have John go into private practice?

SusiGo · September 21, 2014 5:28 pm

Possibly. I think it is a wonderful element in the original stories and they could find a new twist for that. On the other hand Sherlock has done so many things John does not know about it would be nice for a change to make John realise how much Sherlock cares for him.

mrshouse · September 21, 2014 5:30 pm

Oh, somehow I have a feeling, which is based on exactly nothing, that they will keep milking those misunderstandings between the boys and keep them apart, just for the fun of torturing us.

besleybean · September 21, 2014 5:39 pm

Torture?
It's a joy.

SusiGo · September 30, 2014 3:48 pm

I have nothing to add (at least not regarding this scene):

http://deducingbbcsherlock.tumblr.com/post/77026120302/cant-two-guys-just-have-a-close-platonic

besleybean · September 30, 2014 4:21 pm

Me not much either: John thinking about his adventures with Sherlock.

Liberty · September 30, 2014 5:43 pm

Yes, I'm not really sure what the writer is saying.

"John hasn’t seen his best friend in a few weeks (I’m not counting the honeymoon, it’s not like he expected to spend time with him then). So could someone please tell me how to interpret this scene in any way other than John needs/wants something from Sherlock that he is not getting. "

Surely the reason he's not getting what he needs from Sherlock, is that he hasn't seen Sherlock for a month?

mrshouse · September 30, 2014 6:18 pm

Well, Liberty and bb, the way I see it that is definitely part of the message. But one should consider that there would have been about a thousand different ways to get the message across that there is just a bored bro missing another bro. But the writers chose an intimate setting, in bed, dreaming and not conciously randomizing his dreams and thoughts. They chose a setting where Sherlocks face and voice clearly brings calmness in addition to adventure, just watch the music and lighting of the dream. They chose John to toss Mary's hand away at waking up and being clearly disappointed at the sight of his neighbor. And furthermore they chose in this scene to make John a mirror of Sherlock's concerning dressing up in a dark gown.

SusiGo · September 30, 2014 6:22 pm

Yes to all this, mrshouse. We know that they are best friends. We really know that and I suppose the writers do not think us so daft that they have to tell us over and over again. This is different. Intimate, as you said. There is not a single bedroom scene with John and Mary in which Sherlock is not present. In John's mind, in their talks, in John's blog, in John's dreams. This is definitely more than two men being best mates.

besleybean · September 30, 2014 6:22 pm

John is an adrenalin addict.
Sherlock provides the adrenalin rush.
Mary provides the sexual rush.

mrshouse · September 30, 2014 6:30 pm

For the moment being

besleybean · September 30, 2014 6:32 pm

Of course.
But if and when Mary goes...Sherlock will not take her place in the sexual fulfillment role.

Harriet · September 30, 2014 6:33 pm

Agree, bb, he will not play such a minor part...

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mrshouse · September 30, 2014 6:35 pm

You did not argue against my reasoning of the deliberate intimate setting, bb

besleybean · September 30, 2014 6:39 pm

Doesn't one normally dream in bed?
I am assuming he is at least half asleep as the knock on the door appears to wake him...and obviously Sherlock isn't really speaking to him..