After all, we have to be charitable and we do potentially have an innocent child to consider!

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But why would he do the latter?(Altho personal confession here: on my only paltry attempt at fanfic he does just this...but for diffeernt reasons to witness protection)

Swanpride wrote:

Honestly, I can't see John abandonning his wife and child, nor would I like him anymore if he did.

 
Do you say that in general? I mean, it depends on the reasons he would have, right?

I think he would probably stay with Sherlock to help him bring down those who are are a danger for Mary and the baby.

I have been thinking about this some more and because I´m one of the fewer people who like Mary I don´t want to see her dead. But to follow canon she has to leave the series at one point, so my favourite scenario would be that she indeed goes into witness protection with the baby. And John is teaming up with Sherlock to bring down their tormentors. But it all takes longer than anticipated and John and Mary becomet estranged over the process and decide to have a divorce. But he will still have visitation rights with the child and the child would visit him and Sherlock in 221b Baker Street on occasion. I really liked Sherlock´s interaction with Artie, so I would like to see him interact with another child, a girl this time. And they even could bring Mary back from time to time if it fits with the rest of the stories.
But even though I would love to see this, I think it´s rather unlikely to happen, especially with Moffat saying it´s going to be an even darker series in the future.

But Martin's notorious for letting things slip and Benedict isn't much better.

besleybean wrote:

Trying to piece this altogether...
Mary has to go, to get the boys back together.
A few issues:
I'm fairly certain Amanda was referring to Mary dying and not simply disappearing
The baby is the big stumbling block. Because none of us are going to be happy if anything happens to that baby....even if it isn't John's.
The best option here would be  Mary dies(after the baby is born)and we then learn the baby is actually David's so gets taken off by him.
This may have problems concerning Mary's loyalty to John, so maybe not.
It is possible she's faking pregnancy, but that's looking increasingly unlikely...tho I personally would prefer that scenario to her cheating on John.
So leaving all that aside for the moment, options for the actual death.
1. She dies trying to save her child.
2. She dies trying to save John.
3. She dies trying to save Sherlock
4.Sherlock kills her as she's about to kill John
5. John kills her as she's about to kill Sherlock.
6. She is executed when her past catches up with her.
7. She dies in crossfire.
8. She dies of natural causes...possibly in childbirth(less likely these days and again, we lose the baby as well).
As much as I would like Sherlock and John to raise baby, I really can't see this happening.
So the choices are: 
A. There isn't a baby
B. It's David's
C. We have to lose it
There is another awful option...Mary commits suicide, possibly with baby.
Unless we can just have Mary and baby disappear...
 

Mary being killed by either S or J, those ideas are unacceptable to me, as is the idea of suicide. As for death in childbirth, that doesn't necessarily mean the baby would also be dead. I think the writers have painted themselves into a messy corner, that's what I think, and I'll be intrigued to see how they get themselves out of it. I don't mind if they pile on the angst and something drives John and Sherlock even closer together, but the less death involved (for anyone), the better, as far as I'm concerned.


 

RavenMorganLeigh wrote:

I'd also like this to happen without it having anything to do with Sherlock-- for once, I'd like to see him not be blamed for John's misfortune. ;-) I'd really rather see him in the role of supportive freind-- because he wants to, not to appease his guilt/try to make ammends. I think that dynamic might go a long way towards healing their relationship (however you want to see it ) in the eys of the viewers.

I can't see the witness protection thing happening.  But anything's possible.

Totally agree with you on the above point. As I've stated before.  No matter what happens to Mary and baby I feel like it must be something that brings Sherlock and John closer together rather than further apart.  The fall drove them apart and they are still trying to recover from that.  What needs to happen now is for a situation to arise that fully reunites them in the face of a common enemy.

Our Boys must be back together!

Chiming in to say, yep I agree-- we need Sherlock and John back together. 

Swanpride wrote:

I don't think that John and Sherlock are really apart...just because they don't life at the same place anymore doesn't mean that they can't see each other anymore. And I would like to see the writers exploring the new dynamic a little bit more.

That could be interesting: John would have to stop being backup for Sherlock; it's too irresponible to put oneself in danger when you have a family to support--sooooo--- maybe we get to see more Lestrade, Billy Wiggins and Molly -- and , inevitably much less of John; say mostly on a social basis-- not really having much to do with cases at all. But, sure-- I could see little vignettes of John, Mary and Baby doing family stuff, and John getting a moment to textor call Sherlock. And, I'll bet you-- that the first episode of the 4th series is going to be exactly that.