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May 30, 2014 5:22 pm  #21


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

But they really kept "Lügnerin" in the dark/in the background a bit... we didn't see it, either. And is it just me, or did the words move a lot faster than in the original version? I really had difficulties reading them, it just was too fast.


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May 30, 2014 5:35 pm  #22


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

I just rewatched that bit in both versions.
No, the German one isn't faster than the original, but it's more confusing to read because of the length of the German words.


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May 30, 2014 6:16 pm  #23


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Friend of mine fell asleep while watching it. Again. Hopeless. 


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May 30, 2014 8:46 pm  #24


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Die Zeit has a review as well. Spoilerish but very enthusiastic (including some moronic readers' comments):

http://www.zeit.de/kultur/film/2014-05/sherlock-ard-neue-folgen


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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May 30, 2014 9:06 pm  #25


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Oh, I even know the author, he's a colleague of mine. But I didn't know that he also writes for "Die Zeit".
And yes, a very nice article.

And oh my, that sounds beautiful...

"Ich bin", sagt Holmes, "ein lächerlicher Mensch, erlöst durch die Wärme Deiner Freundschaft."
 

Last edited by SolarSystem (May 30, 2014 9:08 pm)


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"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

May 30, 2014 9:13 pm  #26


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Yes, this is lovely. I would be so happy if they got the speech right. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 30, 2014 9:15 pm  #27


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

That one sentence actually makes me think that they just might pull it off...


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May 31, 2014 6:21 am  #28


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

SusiGo wrote:

Die Zeit has a review as well. Spoilerish but very enthusiastic (including some moronic readers' comments):

http://www.zeit.de/kultur/film/2014-05/sherlock-ard-neue-folgen

Nice article, I always like Sherlock-reviews to be enthusiastic . Although I completely disagree about Sherlock still being the "entemotionalisierte Genie" and high-flyer who sees through life´s complexities for us (the audience).. but well. He probably hasn´t seen complete S3 yet..

 

May 31, 2014 7:18 am  #29


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

SolarSystem wrote:

And oh my, that sounds beautiful...

"Ich bin", sagt Holmes, "ein lächerlicher Mensch, erlöst durch die Wärme Deiner Freundschaft."
 

 
Oh, that would be a highlight of German dubbing!!! 


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May 31, 2014 8:11 am  #30


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

gently69 wrote:

SolarSystem wrote:

And oh my, that sounds beautiful...

"Ich bin", sagt Holmes, "ein lächerlicher Mensch, erlöst durch die Wärme Deiner Freundschaft."
 

 
Oh, that would be a highlight of German dubbing!!!

Yes, we might send them flowers, chocolate and port after all.
 


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"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

May 31, 2014 8:17 am  #31


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

The beginning of a beautiful friendship 


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May 31, 2014 9:09 am  #32


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Or at least some incentive to keep up the decent work.


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"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

May 31, 2014 9:37 am  #33


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

SolarSystem wrote:

Oh, I even know the author, he's a colleague of mine. But I didn't know that he also writes for "Die Zeit".
And yes, a very nice article.

And oh my, that sounds beautiful...

"Ich bin", sagt Holmes, "ein lächerlicher Mensch, erlöst durch die Wärme Deiner Freundschaft."
 

so nice!  Solar,  best of compliments to your colleague!

Sounds like he really appreciates Benedict's subtle acting talent, in
that incredible face we know and love:

"...einem Gesicht, das sich innerhalb von Sekunden von einer starren Maske zu
einem Spiegel von Hunderten gleichzeitig aufscheinender und wieder
unterdrückter Gefühlsregungen wandeln kann."

 

May 31, 2014 9:39 am  #34


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Yes, that is a wonderful sentence. And it describes exactly what Benedict can communicate with minute movements of his face. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 31, 2014 9:51 am  #35


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

http://www.stern.de/kultur/tv/2-serien-tipps-guckbefehl-einen-besseren-sherlock-kann-es-nicht-geben-1974296.html

Slightly stupid article - no "Meta-Ebene", big laugh!! - but a recommendation to watch. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 31, 2014 9:52 am  #36


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Sounds like he really appreciates Benedict's subtle acting talent, in
that incredible face we know and love:

"...einem Gesicht, das sich innerhalb von Sekunden von einer starren Maske zu
einem Spiegel von Hunderten gleichzeitig aufscheinender und wieder
unterdrückter Gefühlsregungen wandeln kann."

Stupid ... because it isn't my matter at all but that makes me so proud of him!!!

Last edited by gently69 (May 31, 2014 9:56 am)


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Ten:" I'm burning up a sun just to say goodbye."

Sherlock: "I heard you.”

"Temptation coursing through our veins " 
(Tony Hadley)

 
 

May 31, 2014 9:53 am  #37


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

jenosborn, I'll let him know that the German fans (or least some of them) approve of the way in which he approaches Sherlock and Benedict.
 

Last edited by SolarSystem (May 31, 2014 9:54 am)


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"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

May 31, 2014 9:58 am  #38


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

SusiGo wrote:

http://www.stern.de/kultur/tv/2-serien-tipps-guckbefehl-einen-besseren-sherlock-kann-es-nicht-geben-1974296.html

Slightly stupid article - no "Meta-Ebene", big laugh!! - but a recommendation to watch. 

Well, if she doesn't see a "Meta-Ebene", then I would say she is as blind as a mole. Or she doesn't know what the term "Meta-Ebene" even means. But okay, she seems to like Benedict, that's something, right?
 


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"Am I the current King of England?

"I see no shame in having an unhealthy obsession with something." - David Tennant
"We did observe." - David Tennant in "Richard II"

 
 

May 31, 2014 9:59 am  #39


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

Yes, that is quite obvious.
Maybe we should show her loudest-subtext-in-television's tumblr. 

Last edited by SusiGo (May 31, 2014 10:00 am)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 31, 2014 10:08 am  #40


Re: Der leere Sarg (TEH), German TV ARD, May 29, 2014

No, susi, that could come as a bit of a johnlock-shock to some of the German fans...
After all, this is not the comprehensive thread 


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