It doesn't need it.
But some seem to require it.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I mean, I feel I understand Sherlock well.
But obviously, so do Johnlockers.
There are 2 possible explanations for this:
1.  Either the show is not clear.
2.  The interpretataion isn't always accurate.

Incidentally, I could agree with you about interpreting from the show.
But what of the pilot and fan fic?

Last edited by besleybean (May 18, 2014 3:59 pm)

For me as a very unromantic person it seemed crystal clear from the first episode that they had a special something, but that this special something was so far from anything physical or the mainstream notion of "romantic love" that this interpretation just existed as a joke and in the imagination of "normal" people around them who didn´t get the extraordinary character of their connection. I thought that automatically putting two guys in the position of a gay couple just because they are unattached, attractive and live and work together was rather boring and jumping to the most obvious conclusion. (I didn´t know about the term "Johnlock" back then, or that this pairing has such a broad and dedicated fanbase.) After S3 and months on this forum and tumblr I´m not so sure anymore, (or better I´m quite sure they are in love in a way, still doubt the physical aspect..), but still I interpret most of their interactions completely different from the way Johnlockers seem to do.

Example:
Johnlockers: Sherlock sacrificed his career for John who was in danger, that´s romantic.
Me: Sherlock saved three lives and freed the world from a criminal network, that´s heroic. 

Johnlockers: Sherlock and John agreed to die together at the pool, that´s true love.
Me: Sherlock and John agreed that if they are to die anyway it will be on their conditions and they will take Moriarty with them, kudos to their rational and heroic thought in the face of certain death.

Johnlockers: John told Sherlock to run and save his life, he must love him like crazy.
Me: John is the type of guy who risks his own life in order to save others.

Johnlockers: Smoldering heat, eye-sex!
Me: How to say "Shut up!" without actually speaking.

And so on.

Of course I still see all the hints in the show that point towards Johnlock, but personally I rather feel manipulated into associating the two of them with lovers/a couple when clearly they are not (I don´t know if I can express what I mean here, it´s complicated and I´m not too articulate in English..). To be honest I often roll my eyes at the running joke or when the hints are very obvious, like stag night and the likes.. Probably I just don´t want to see it. (And if anyone jumps to the conclusion "homophobe" now I shall be very disappointed ​).

I interpreted the subtext in S1 and 2 in my unromantic way, but also feel it might not be possible/realistic anymore after S3. And now I´m worried about S4.. (because I don´t like to be wrong and because I don´t watch the show for feels and relationship stuff and because I´m a horrible person who is against love in general and kicks little puppies, in case anyone was wondering..)

Last edited by Zatoichi (May 18, 2014 7:00 pm)

In case the Johnlock conspiracy is true and Johnlock becomes maintext, or so obvious I can´t interpret the show in my preferred "deep friendship only"-way anymore..

Ok, guys, lets list the top 20  where there is perfect friendship amongst m\f-couples:
1) Pretty woman (perfect bromance with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts)

I'm a tad confused by the list, too.
There may be hundreds of examples of male- female freindship...
But there will be an equal amount of male-male friendships and:
John is married!

I remain puzzled.
There are many different kinds of films/TV shows wirh many different kind of hero pairings, some friends some partners..
Ours is based on original stories and happens to be 2 male friends...andt?!

But of course, bb, there are tons of different connections in real life as well as on tv. I was referring to your post earlier that the bromance was safe and forever living and maybe I misunderstood you but it seemed to me just a little bit that maybe it would be argued less if m/f. But we can have lists of friendships, I'm always keen to learn.

mrshouse wrote:

But indeed I'm convinced the discussion would never be that heated if it was a m/f-couple, I might be wrong of course. But honestly, give it a try.

I recently read that in other fandoms (I think it was Vampire Diaries) they have very heated discussions about several m/f-pairings. I don´t know what´s going on with "Elementary", but I´m sure as long as there´s ambiguity paired with dedicated fans there will always be heated discussions . Which is fine, by the way, as long as no one feels personally offended and dishes out hate..

@"married": Oh yes, I know some gay people who are married to or in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, for different reasons.. as well as hetero-marriages which broke up after a few months because both realized they made a wrong decision.. for me John being married is no big point in the debate.

That's it exactly. He's attracted to one man in particular.