I don't know if fanfics really helped me to understand why though..
So, question about sexuality on the show.
I can't tell whether it's biased how they put sherlock kissing molly, but they cut off sherlock kissing Moriarty... It bothers me a little now that I think about it. Thoughts?

Considering that 10 years ago they wouldn´t touch the subject of homosexuality with a stick on such a TV show, I think the filmmakers were bold anyway to include this Sheriarty kiss.

bothers me that they felt like the homosexual one had to be "censored" in a way.. but I guess there's more than one possible excuse for why they did that. Like what susigo said. or maybe the makers aren't homophobic, but worried about homophobic viewers. Could also be story itself required a cut off like that.

Lue4028 wrote:

bothers me that they felt like the homosexual one had to be "censored" in a way.. but I guess there's more than one possible excuse for why they did that. Like what susigo said. or maybe the makers aren't homophobic, but worried about homophobic viewers. Could also be story itself required a cut off like that.

Not only was the kiss incomplete, but also only the fantasy of that silly fan at Anderson's support group. As though someone would have to be a socially backward, frustrated, confused nut job to even think of such a thing. Ugh. I didn't like that scene on first (2nd, 3rd, etc) view but don't like it even more now.
 

Ben Stephenson, the BBC drama director, has stated more than once that they wish to get more good scripts including gay characters whose gayness is just a simple fact and not the centre of the show. Therefore I do not believe that it is BBC policy to suppress homosexual elements in their dramas. And we should not forget that a large part, the majority, I would say, of Sherlock viewers is female. 

ancientsgate wrote:

Lue4028 wrote:

bothers me that they felt like the homosexual one had to be "censored" in a way.. but I guess there's more than one possible excuse for why they did that. Like what susigo said. or maybe the makers aren't homophobic, but worried about homophobic viewers. Could also be story itself required a cut off like that.

Not only was the kiss incomplete, but also only the fantasy of that silly fan at Anderson's support group. As though someone would have to be a socially backward, frustrated, confused nut job to even think of such a thing. Ugh. I didn't like that scene on first (2nd, 3rd, etc) view but don't like it even more now.
 

Oh, you are a bit harsh - I frequent some festivals in our country where many people like Laura gather and I wouldn´t describe any of them as "socially backward, frustrated, confused nut job" ( a cliche in itself). They are quite funny, enthousiastic young people - they just like outrageous fanfictions and slash (but there´s nothing wrong with that, per se ). The scene was a little tribute to them. I personally was quite amused by it - it wasn´t written to be taken so seriously anyway.

SolarSystem wrote:

ancientsgate wrote:

Lue4028 wrote:

bothers me that they felt like the homosexual one had to be "censored" in a way.. but I guess there's more than one possible excuse for why they did that. Like what susigo said. or maybe the makers aren't homophobic, but worried about homophobic viewers. Could also be story itself required a cut off like that.

Not only was the kiss incomplete, but also only the fantasy of that silly fan at Anderson's support group. As though someone would have to be a socially backward, frustrated, confused nut job to even think of such a thing. Ugh. I didn't like that scene on first (2nd, 3rd, etc) view but don't like it even more now.

For what it's worth, both kisses were just fantasies and therefore tell us nothing about Sherlock's sexuality.

Nevertheless it is interesting why they cut one of those kisses and didn't cut the other one. Everything happens for a reason. But that debate probably is for a seperate thread.
 

They cut the second one because public at large is still not entirely used to have homosexuality depicted onscreen.
And yet I see a big, positive change in portrayal of homosexuals onscreen nowadays - when just a few years ago, you wouldn´t even dream to have such things broadcasted on TV.

nakahara wrote:

SolarSystem wrote:

ancientsgate wrote:

Not only was the kiss incomplete, but also only the fantasy of that silly fan at Anderson's support group. As though someone would have to be a socially backward, frustrated, confused nut job to even think of such a thing. Ugh. I didn't like that scene on first (2nd, 3rd, etc) view but don't like it even more now.

For what it's worth, both kisses were just fantasies and therefore tell us nothing about Sherlock's sexuality.

Nevertheless it is interesting why they cut one of those kisses and didn't cut the other one. Everything happens for a reason. But that debate probably is for a seperate thread.
 

They cut the second one because public at large is still not entirely used to have homosexuality depicted onscreen.
And yet I see a big, positive change in portrayal of homosexuals onscreen nowadays - when just a few years ago, you wouldn´t even dream to have such things broadcasted on TV.

It's probably just me and 'the public at large' would probably have seen it in a different light (not so sure about that, though), but to me a full-blown kiss between Moriarty and Sherlock would just have been pure fun. I certainly wouldn't have thought 'oh look, two gay men are kissing on a television show!'... it would have felt far too much like a joke for me.
(And actually, I was in hysterics when I first saw it.)
 

Are you making fun of me, Harriet?

Zatoichi wrote:

Wait.. the second kiss is cut because the audience isn´t used to homoerotics, and not because it´s super-weird to see our hero kiss his insane arch-enemy..?? Aaaallrighty then.. 

In a world of fanfiction, from where this idea was taken, everything is possible.
I fear that even poor Redbeard is already paired with some crazy partner in some fanfics....