Don't forget the damsel in distress- which sadly at the end of the day both Irene and Mary ended up as. ( Sentiment )
The only woman that seemed to stand equally was Janine.
Now she was awesome.

Last edited by lil (January 24, 2014 10:00 pm)

lil wrote:

Don't forget the damsel in distress- which sadly at the end of the day both Irene and Mary ended up as. ( Sentiment )
The only woman that seemed to stand equally was Janine.
Now she was awesome.

But even then she got out from under CAM's thumb by making lots of money from her connection to Sherlock; it's not as if she rescued herself 
 

Willow wrote:

lil wrote:

Don't forget the damsel in distress- which sadly at the end of the day both Irene and Mary ended up as. ( Sentiment )
The only woman that seemed to stand equally was Janine.
Now she was awesome.

But even then she got out from under CAM's thumb by making lots of money from her connection to Sherlock; it's not as if she rescued herself 
 

 
Ah but she didn't just slink off in sentiment...she got her own back.
Idk but i thought Sherlocks and it turns out you were just a media whore line...so we're all fine , and they laugh bit , was an acknowledgement that they both knew each were using the other for something....but cld be wrong.

And I don't think cam wanted/could be brought off with money.
Not when he was so rich and fond of flicking faces.

Last edited by lil (January 25, 2014 1:26 am)

Swanpride, I'm rather curious of your take on the female characters in Sherlock. I don't think they're so bad as some people make them out to be. Have you written about that? 

Well, between him and Sherlock...

clareiow wrote:

This is going to sound way off track, but it was something that flagged up to me while I was rewatching the Blind Banker last night. All of the smugglers had a tattoo on their foot for the Black Lotus gang.
When Sherlock was deducing her on the night he met her, he deduced "secret past" and "secret tattoo".
Shen from Black Lotus was working for Moriarty, who "turns up" at the end of HLV. An episode where Mary shoots Sherlock,after somehow breaking into CAMs impenetrable apartment to kill him as he knows her secret. 
Could it all be linked, or is my imagination running way too wildly?

Yes; the secret tattoo is, I suspect, going to be of significance and Moftiss have been scrupulous in avoiding any kind of explanation as to how Mary got into CAM's office/apartment. It doesn't take a genius to note that there are no windows; it's floor to ceiling glass on the exterior walls, so Moffat's oh so casual reference to considering having CAM notice an opened window is a straightforward lie.

I noticed that Mary's rather strange "you're DEAD' statement to Sherlock in TEH is paralleled in HLV with her statement 'he's DEAD' about Moriarty. The first seemed perfectly reasonable on what we knew of her then, but by the end of HLV we know that she's a stone cold killer and yet she seems frightened. There's something strange going on, but then it's Sherlock. It would be strange if there wasn't something strange going on...
 

I hope not!