BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012.
1 2 Jump to
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline - Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
The actor had a tough gig, I think, but I was sure that this manic Moriarty was merely a henchman posing as the real thing. I kept waiting for this truth to come out but it never did. I thought these producers would fix the situation. Maybe they did by killing him off but perhaps we'll find out my first idea was correct. Moriarty has to have some gravitas. Must be a professor. A tweaked version can still work as with MG as Mycroft who is excellent. They certainly tweaked Sherlock but have made him much more human and improved him so far in season 3. The original Holmes can be charming when needed and can seamlessly interact with people you need this for the disguises & etc. to work.
Last edited by SteveNJ (January 18, 2014 9:35 pm)
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- silverblaze
- Official Blogger
Offline
- From: Netherlands
- Registered: December 4, 2013
- Posts: 1,353
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Watch some interviews with the writers. They're pretty clear about their intentions.
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline
- Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
I've read some interviews, doesn't make the chacacter any better but thanks for playing!
silverblaze wrote:
Watch some interviews with the writers. They're pretty clear about their intentions.
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- •
Thread Starter- saturnR
- Mycroft's Contact
Offline
- From: sydney
- Registered: September 3, 2012
- Posts: 528
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Moriarty has to have some gravitas. Must be a professor.
Everyone's been youthfied so that Benedict & Martin are both younger than Holmes & Watson in the books. They tried to keep this trend & make Moriarty younger as well. I realise that there are many very young & intelligent professors out there, I'm not sure that it would work the best with Moriarty.
- silverblaze
- Official Blogger
Offline
- From: Netherlands
- Registered: December 4, 2013
- Posts: 1,353
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
They said the canon character of Moriarty was a walking cliche. They wanted to do something else. A real psychopath. That became Andrew's version, they were blown away by his audition and even wrote in a scene that they didn't intend because they thought he was just awesome.
- tobeornot221b
- One More Miracle
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: February 12, 2012
- Posts: 6,761
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Nowadays, a professor isn't necessarily a model of authority any longer - like back in the science enthusiastic 19th century. He's now everything else but frightening.
A psychopath of unsound mind is. (remember Norman Bates?)
Andrew Scott's Moriarty is the perfect scaremonger.And thus has a different kind of "gravitas".
Last edited by tobeornot221b (January 19, 2014 3:07 pm)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John: "Have you spoken to Mycroft, Molly, uh, anyone?"
Mrs Hudson: "They don’t matter. You do."
I BELIEVE IN SERIES 5!
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline
- Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
For me this Moriarty was a massive fail. It just didn't work. Yes I see what they were going for but it didn't work. It's my only major criticism so far. They did kill him off so I guess they realized it too.
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- •
Thread Starter- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Online! 
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,351
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
I don't know whether we weill see anymore of him.
But I loved what they gave us.
He is still the perfect criminal mastermind for me.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline
- Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Well I have to credit the actor because he fully commited to the role but the babbling, loon-type character is a cliche.
He became a comedic character. Should I be laughing at Moriarty?
Just need some gravitas to go toe to toe with Sherlock but we'll get that with the updated Milverton, I guess.
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- •
Thread Starter- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Online!
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,351
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
We did.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- silverblaze
- Official Blogger
Offline
- From: Netherlands
- Registered: December 4, 2013
- Posts: 1,353
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Yeah, if you like canon Moriarty you'll probably gonna love new Milverton more.
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline
- Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
^COOL. Can't wait to see it. The original story had a great ending and I heard this version is, though changed, great.
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- •
Thread Starter- Sherlock Holmes
- Administrator
Offline
- From: 221B Baker Street
- Registered: February 7, 2012
- Posts: 5,162
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
I honestly don't think I've ever laughed at Moriarty. The guy scares the hell out of me and gives me bad dreams.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.
Independent OSAJ Affiliate
- Mugwump
- Wrong!
Offline
- Registered: January 16, 2014
- Posts: 5
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Moriarty totally worked for me in that I believed him to be a hugely intelligent, very wicked and dangerous man. Great writing and performances.
- SherlocklivesinOH
- Mycroft's Contact
Offline
- Registered: January 12, 2014
- Posts: 526
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Well I have to credit the actor because he fully commited to the role but the babbling, loon-type character is a cliche.
He became a comedic character. Should I be laughing at Moriarty?
Just need some gravitas to go toe to toe with Sherlock but we'll get that with the updated Milverton, I guess.
His committing suicide as a way of winning was REALLY over the top.
- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Online!
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,351
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
I thought it was totally in character,for somebody having completely lost their mind.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- SteveNJ
- Homeless Network
Offline
- Registered: January 18, 2014
- Posts: 20
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
When his ring tone was Staying Alive you didn't laugh???
I honestly don't think I've ever laughed at Moriarty. The guy scares the hell out of me and gives me bad dreams.
"the lowest and vilest alleys in London do not present a more dreadful record of sin than does the smiling and beautiful countryside.”
- •
Thread Starter- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Online!
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,351
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
I think he is a brilliant scary villain, but he also makes me laugh!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Mattlocked
- One More Miracle
Offline
- From: Germany
- Registered: June 29, 2012
- Posts: 6,781
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Yes, me too. Several times. Or maybe it was just Andrew's brilliant acting, I can't say.
__________________________________
"After all this time?" "Always."
Good bye, Lord Rickman of the Alan
- besleybean
- Threatened Knighthood
Online!
- From: Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland.
- Registered: October 4, 2012
- Posts: 21,351
Re: Moriarty: The only character that didn't work for me in the BBC series
Defiinitely the latter.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 2 Jump to
