I saw it Friday and would largely agree with your assessment.The dragon out acted everybody, but yes, there were good performances.
Is Martin's part just badly written?

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IMO the problem is that with LOTR Jackson had almost too much material for three films whereas with The Hobbit he does not nearly have enough. 

There was hardly an opportunity for really appreciating and enjoying the wonderful settings (the village, the landscapes). Too fast paced as if there was the fear the audience might get bored if there weren't enough fighting Orks in every possible scene. I found Legolas boring. No mimic, just jumping and fighting.

kittykat wrote:

It had some flaws, but so does every film.

I don't agree with that one. There are films, some of them 50, 60, 70 years old or even older, which are perfect. It is possible to make the perfect movie. The most important factor for that is a very good story.

SusiGo wrote:

IMO the problem is that with LOTR Jackson had almost too much material for three films whereas with The Hobbit he does not nearly have enough.

I've got the same impression. There just isn't enough story for three films. 

Yes, something like Sherlock. Witty, funny, clever - wonderful!

kitty, I don't think anyone here is getting 'caught up' in the weaknesses of the movie. But I honestly don't see what should be wrong about mentioning the things that just didn't work for me - or to stay a bit critical. After all, I pay money for a movie ticket. And to be honest, to me it's just part of the fun to talk about a movie afterwards and to hear different opinions about it.  

And furthermore, this thread would only have one page if we all just agreed that it was great and that's it. I mean, the idea of this whole forum is to exchange opinions, isn't it? Would be a bit boring if we all just agreed on everything.
It's totally fine with me that other people love this movie, and I know that sometimes it's hard to take when other people don't share your love for a movie, a book, a song. Believe me, I had heated debates about movies with my boyfriend in the past. But I find it quite interesting to hear why he loves a movie that I don't love at all and vice versa. You can learn a lot from such discussions.

Exactly. E.G. "The Fifth Estate" surely has its weaknesses but Benedict is wonderful in it. And then you have things like "Sherlock" where script, actors, design, music and everything else are great. 

Agree. The few flaws in Sherlock are so tiny that mentioning them would be petty.

Or like that!