Marva wrote:

SolarSystem wrote:

It's quite interesting, in the dubbed version they sometimes say stuff they never ever say in the original version. I was watching all episodes again just recently in the dubbed version with a friend, because her English isn't that good. And several times I just had to inform her "you know, he doesn't say that in the original version". Sorry, I guess I should have taken notes because I don't remember in which scenes that was... I just remember that it was completely unnecessary.

now I am really curious to know what they might have added (or removed) in the German version

It was nothing extreme and nothing that altered the meaning of a complete scene or anything. Just tiny details (I'm not sure, but I think one example can be found in the Cluedo-scene...), which I found even more irritating because there really was no need to make these alterations.
I really should have taken notes...
 

Maybe it is meant to mean "Fall" (case) with all the German references. And Moriarty provides Sherlock with a last case when he delivered the Bruhl case where Sherlock was the suspect.
Maybe it is a reference to the last pip from TGG. Always provided that the Bruce-Partington case was not the last pip. Moriarty said that he could have got the plans anyway.

Anyway it is a nice play with words and double meaning.

Be wrote:

Anyway it is a nice play with words and double meaning.

That was my thought about it. I can't see the connection to another fall (case) that should follow. Moriaty wanted to destroy him. Fall in terms of Sherlock's "end"?
Yes, that doesn't make it easier with the German dubbing.

I absolutely agree with you, Solar. The non-intended double meaning with "fall" is nice and the grammar jokes do not work. 

Btw, there was a silly but funny gif on tumblr where Moriarty says "I owe you a fall" and starts showering Sherlock with autumn leaves. 

I accidentally started watching Sherlock (the German version) in the middle of Scandal and was in love instantly.

Yes, this is the dubbing's weakest point IMO. They have done quite well, not perfect, but then translation is always an approximation. As such it is quite good. But I cannot understand why they kept the "Sie" throughout the whole series. They had the chance at the very beginning when they meet in front of 221B and Sherlock says "Sherlock, please." Two men of this age living together as friends would never ever say "Sie" to each other. Of course there is the Canon tradition using this form of address but after all this is 21st century Sherlock Holmes. 

Lol meant popping in, damn auto correction. ;-)

gently69 wrote:

But the atmosphere and the chemistry in the original version works much better as in the German one with the Sie. I don't think that it helps in the German dubbing. Funny, you are the first one who I know defending the Siezen.
No problem of course. If it is your opinion.

Believe me when I tell you that I've never been a fan of Siezen in general. But I was watching both seasons on two different nights with my sister, in German cause she doesn't speak English well. She said to me,  after I told her that they don't do that in English, the English language maybe doesn't have to make a difference cause it's how they talk to each other. I was like maybe you're right. So I watched it again in OT and IMO she was right.

The "Sie" worked for me until I watched the original. Since my family and friends who watch Sherlock in the german version are not complaining about it I won't do either.

Hm I know where ya coming from, that grave scene...ya right, that really was strange. Agreed.
Guess it's as strange as it was for me when I moved to Ireland and no matter where or who I called for an appointment they always called me by my first name, which is common over there.