Whisky wrote:

sj4iy wrote:

the_dancing_woman wrote:

Well, no they won't come face to face at the Daffodil, I know. If John intends to propose to Mary, I don't think he will get this far in the restaurant, as they get kicked out there before they even eat. So maybe at the Kebab shop, we will see

As for the bonfire, there is a casting description out there on the internet where they were looking for a father (age 35 to 50), who isn't very patient with his daughter when she tries to tell him, that the effigy on the bonfire is alive and telling her that he wants to get off the fire and asks her to help him, and let's face it, this would be quite a perfectly dramatic moment. So, this sounds to me very much like he maybe is conscious (albeit still under the influence of the drugs he had been given when he was abducted) for a short while before the fire is actually lit. It also corresponds with the shocked and screaming girl we got to see in the last trailer the BBC released.

I've read the casting description, but the description from the people who were there at the bonfire (as well as pictures and video) clearly show Sherlock digging someout from underneath the fire, not on top.  People would have been able to tell the difference between an effigy and an unconscious man on top of the fire before they lit it- but if you bury him under the fire, no one knows.  The little probably tells her dad that she sees a man in the fire, but he makes the mistake of thinking she's talking about the effigy instead of John.  That's my guess as to the situation.

So the "I'll burn the heart out of you" was a series 3 hint? I just catched up on that bonfire thing and well if John is IN that fire... then maybe Moriarty meant it like... literally, not just metaphorically? The thought had occured, but without Moriarty in series 3, I thought it was impossible. But if he had ordered someone to do it... is there any context to the bonfire thing yet? (sry, as I said just now catching up, I haven't read the whole thread so far...)
I liked the metaphor, burning a heart out of somebody, and well, Sherlock always seemed to care not -only- about John, but... the cookie man, "burned to a crisp", felt not quite right to me... it seemed like a clear hint a person would burn, not a heart... it wasn't explained, like the girl's scream... like there was still context missing - is that it then? the bigger picture of that line?

And, really, I am so excited about the tube hints. That would be fascinating, Sherlock and the Tube, two things I'm obsessed with... ahhh. I. cannot. wait. any. longer. I would beg, if begging would help.   ;)

You too? I love the tube, and there are a few interesting books about it which detail its history. I'd love to go exploring in the sealed-off tunnels for a bit... with Sherlock, preferably, though I think it'd be rather reassuring if John came along. ;D

As for the bonfire: I was lucky enough to be there, and John (in this case, MF's stunt double) definitely was in the fire. The little girl screams her head off when Sherlock starts to tear the fire apart (you can see her in the BBC British Drama trailer). The effigy could not have been mistaken for an actual human body though, it was too crude for that. They did however play with us here (as usual), because its head looked like someone had wrapped white cloth around someone's head and had then put a black stetson on top of it. I do have a picture of it before the fire's lit, I just don't know how to post it here, I don't think that'd work. If you'd like me to email it to you, however, feel free to send me your email-adresses.
 

There was an interesting dialogue on twitter today. 




DavidGArnold ‏@DavidGArnold  6h 
@CHIMPSINSOCKS Sherlock also now played  by bob geldof

@amanda abbington ‏@CHIMPSINSOCKS  6h 
@DavidGArnold that makes more sense...




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Last edited by Mattlocked (October 18, 2013 3:50 pm)

Amanda is a fine match for Martin's sass.

tonnaree wrote:

Amanda is a fine match for Martin's sass.

Isn't she just? 

Mattlocked wrote:

There was an interesting dialogue on twitter today.




DavidGArnold ‏@DavidGArnold 6h
@CHIMPSINSOCKS Sherlock also now played by bob geldof

@amanda abbington ‏@CHIMPSINSOCKS 6h
@DavidGArnold that makes more sense...


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Brilliant! I absolutely love Amanda Abbington, can't wait to see her with Martin in S3.

Ooh!

kittykat wrote:

If she has secrets, maybe Magnussen will be trying to blackmail her? That would tie it all together...

My words exactly.

Anyway, I've always said that I would like Mary to be more than meets the eye and it seems we might be getting just that!

If she can get John to talk to Sherlock, it would earn her points with the fans! 

I think we're going to like her, and I'm really looking forward to that wedding!

Yeah, that should be good 

And presumably Martin and her!