Lullaby wrote:

While watching the hospital scene I wondered why on Earth Mycroft left Sherlock in the CB's hospital? 

 

I would like to watch Mycroft trying to move Sherlock to another hospital against his will. He had no chance to do it. And Mycroft had not slightest idea there is a danger for Sherlock there. Only for CS and Sherlock was under control wit a cop by the door. 



 

John's cane - how did it appear in Sherlocks room. Of course John brought it but what is behind it? 

First  I thought that Sherlock just asked John to bring it from Baker street. But then John's question if he is so predictible does not make sense. There is nothing to predict there. 

Or brought it John on his own? But why? Sherlock had nothing wrong with legs and it already had to be in Baker street   for Sherlock to be able to input the recording appliance. 
It would be quite crazy from John to say that he would not want  to see Sherlock any more but wants to give the cane as last gift. Really to his ownership because even in Baker street technically it was John's. 

Or could it be some sort of message from John? Either thank him or " I am not able to help you, sorry, and even not able to watch you destroying yourself. Remember what helped me to get rid of the cane,  and do it."

The more I think about it the less I understand but there might be some easy explanation. 

Well, technically, cane is something that helps you to stand on your feet when you have problems to do it on your own.

So the message behind the cane can be benign: "This will help you to stand on your feet when you are out of the bed."

or more darker: "You are on your own now."

Kae Em wrote:

I also see it as a parting gift from John. The cane sort of symbolizes their friendship, the good influence Sherlock had on John by helping him overcome his war trauma (and other issues). I think it symoblizes John feeling he had to distance himself from their friendship but also him saying "thank you for everything you did for me, I haven't forgotten".

Yeah, that's how I see it too.

Another completly different headscratcher I'm wondering about: Why didn't John know Sherlock's birthday? They are friends for so many years. Even if Sherlock didn't want to tell him, I think it's strange that John never tried to find out the date (like Sherlock did with John's middle Name). Besides, Sherlock was John's best man - I don't know how this works in England but in Germany you need to give the personal data of your bestman/bridesmaid (or witness of marriage as we call them) when you offiicialy apply for marriage.

Sherlock was not enthusiastic about any celebrations so he kept is secret. But Irene knew, interesting. 

One more , not just headscratcher but I am thinking about it already for a while. Sherlock's friends took 4 hour shifts to look after him . How many people were included, how many  friends does he have? You need 6 (maybe 5 people , night can be only Ms. Hudson living there) . Then John, Molly, Lestrade, maybe Mycroft ( would definitely not included Billy) ...how long can they do that? Or did Mycroft employed his people again ?  

Preceja wrote:

Sherlock was not enthusiastic about any celebrations so he kept is secret. But Irene knew, interesting. 

Maybe John is generally not interested in such things?
Like - he is fascinated with Sherlock and his shenanigans, but does not care much about such personal stuff? While more curious and observant Sherlock and Irene simply have to know the stuff?

Or it´s just a little plot hole.

Lullaby wrote:

While watching the hospital scene I wondered why on Earth Myscroft left Sherlock in the CB's hospital? I mean, ok, It's convinient, and they already were at the hospital, but still. Even if he thought all the story took place just in Sherlock's imagination, just to be sure his brother will be safe. He put the police officer at the door, but IMO it would be better to put Sherlock into some verified reliable hospital.  IDK, maybe it was just my reaction. But for a moment I had a feeling that it was intentional. 

And another moment. When Jonn and Greg were talking and someone brought a notebook, in that TV interview CB said that "he might even move Sherlock to his favourite room". John had known already that CB's favourite room was a morgue. I doubt he forgot about this. I expected him to rush to Sherlock just after this words, but nothing happened. 

It is exactly, why I have decided, I do not like John anymore. I have no idea, how far was Sherlock going to go with his initial plan (perhaps he was ready to start a fight, and provoke John to hit him to stop - but surely not so viciously - in order to throw CS off balance, and make him confess). But in the end John was supposed to become Sherlock's protector - and he left. I believe, the walking stick meant "take it, because I will not support you anymore".
CS was happy to announce to everybody his intention of killing Sherlock, since he was sure, almost no one will understand him. But John was one of very few, who understood, and still did nothing, aa well as said nothing to Greg, or Mycroft. Only when he heard Mary's recording, he decided to help. Does it mean, without this knowledge he would let Sherlock die? No mourning can justify that.

Last edited by Naavy (January 13, 2017 3:55 pm)

"Hate" is too strong word, however, if John has an explanation - any explanation - why did he hear CS, talking about "his favorite room", and did nothing, he really should provide it.

But maybe this subject should be discussed in another topic?

Preceja wrote:

It was meant generally, it concerns many other scenes, too. 
This one surprised me a bit , too. John is thinking about it but then decides let it be. I think he considered it just a bad joke. He was confused by everything  what happened. Events are  clear at the end but not so in the middle . And nobody believes that rich man and philantropist can be a murderer.

I would expect him tell at least Greg. But he would answer that he had a cop by the door. Sherlock was being under police investigation as John was speaking on record so he knew it, too. Is not it sufficient ? Hard  to say. 
I do not think that Mycroft would do anything. He considered Sherlock's obsession with CS another drug driven phantasy and Mycroft has respect for rich and powerful people.

I believe, none of this three gentlemen should take a risk, because maybe it was only a bad joke. "Maybe" is not enough, when human life is at risk. And I suppose, both: Greg, and Mycroft, would at least check, what was going on. To pull policeman, to sit inside the room, instead by the door, would be the easiest move in the world. Recorder can be turned off - "Can we have a breake, Greg?" does not sound suspicious. But most important part of the story, is: not Greg, neither Mycroft were able to do anything, because John did no give them a chance.
I guess, Sherlock never deduced it...

Just simple questions: do you believe, if it was not Sherlock inside, but randomly picked man, and John had the same informations, would he keep silent? Or would he say everything to Greg, just in case? Would you tell? I would prefer not take the risk. And John is the doctor, he's supposed to save lives, it should be even more important for him.