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Vhanja · July 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Wait a minute... regarding John looking at the hospital bed. There is a screen visible showing the heart monitoring. And there seems to be the typical heart beat pattern on the screen, something you wouldn't have if the bed was empty.

tonnaree · July 26, 2016 6:39 pm

Vhanja wrote:
Wait a minute... regarding John looking at the hospital bed. There is a screen visible showing the heart monitoring. And there seems to be the typical heart beat pattern on the screen, something you wouldn't have if the bed was empty.

Also, if you can pause it just right before the scene fades out you can see a hand on the railing on the left side of the bed.

Vhanja · July 26, 2016 6:43 pm

So... bed not empty, then. Mary or Sherlock?

I'm guessing Sherlock.

tonnaree · July 26, 2016 6:49 pm

Or did you see my theory that it could be Mrs. Hudson?

Liberty · July 26, 2016 6:51 pm

Yes, I mentioned the heart trace a while back - the monitor seems to be connected but the drip doesn't.

I can't make out the hand. I can see the change of colour there, but I just seem to have difficulty seeing things. I can't see the rose either. Or the lesions later on. I don't know if it's me, or if I just need to watch it with higher quality.

Vhanja · July 26, 2016 7:05 pm

How well can we see the hand? Can we see if it belongs to a young(ish) woman (Mary), and elderly woman (Mrs Hudson) or if it's a man's hand (Sherlock)?

Vhanja · July 26, 2016 7:07 pm

Oh, and I haven't heard any dog in the trailer. But I haven't listened for it either, it might be there.

This Is The Phantom Lady · July 26, 2016 7:24 pm

I just watched the trailer once more... (well like I needed an excuse!!) I can't see a hand, and I don't see a rose either... it's some form of appliance on the table...

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Lola Red · July 26, 2016 8:30 pm

tonnaree wrote:
Or did you see my theory that it could be Mrs. Hudson?

I have been thinking about that for a while now. If Una is planing on retiring (she does not look it, but the lady will be 80 next year), she might have asked to be send off with a bang. And losing Mrs. Hudson would make for great drama. I know my heart would be broken...

poorannie13 · July 26, 2016 8:58 pm

Oh that would be just so terrible...

kgreen20 · July 27, 2016 1:38 am

Vhanja wrote:
Wait a minute... regarding John looking at the hospital bed. There is a screen visible showing the heart monitoring. And there seems to be the typical heart beat pattern on the screen, something you wouldn't have if the bed was empty.

Yes, that's true. And unless Sherlock's been shot again, which I can't picture Moffat and Gatiss doing two seasons in a row, somebody else is lying in that bed. The question is, who?

kgreen20 · July 27, 2016 1:40 am

I hope not! I hope that Una will remain on the show as long as it lasts. And I hope that Mark Gatiss will do the same thing, and continue playing Mycroft until the show is over.

Schmiezi · July 27, 2016 4:51 am

kgreen20 wrote:
Vhanja wrote:
Wait a minute... regarding John looking at the hospital bed. There is a screen visible showing the heart monitoring. And there seems to be the typical heart beat pattern on the screen, something you wouldn't have if the bed was empty.
Yes, that's true. And unless Sherlock's been shot again, which I can't picture Moffat and Gatiss doing two seasons in a row, somebody else is lying in that bed. The question is, who?

Well, there are more reasons to be in hospital than being shot at so I think it could still be Sherlock.

Liberty · July 27, 2016 5:51 am

I agree. Especially as this seems to be a medically themed episode and we've got The Dying Detective for inspiration. I think there's meant to be a mystery about who's there, but of course we're all going to think Sherlock first, so does that mean it isn't Sherlock (or they wouldn't show us it and give away that plot point)?

Still puzzled about John at the end of the bed like that. And the back of his head shot reminds me of the shot of him looking at (empty) 221B. Which would fit with the Mrs Hudson theory, I suppose.

nakahara · July 27, 2016 8:32 am

Sherlock´s ruggedly handsome face for a good morning:

This Is The Phantom Lady · July 27, 2016 8:33 am

He's so beautiful even then... I can't even explain it.

And his voice at that point in the trailer... that growl of the cougar in the cello...

GimmeCat · July 27, 2016 11:04 am

The lack of Lady in Red in this trailer is making her look like a far more important element than she already seemed.

SusiGo · July 27, 2016 11:13 am

This is true. From what we saw during setlock, she might well be a key character, no matter if she is real or imagined or a memory.

This Is The Phantom Lady · July 27, 2016 1:12 pm

hmmm that could make Mrs Hudson that pissed.

But... more faked deaths?

This Is The Phantom Lady · July 27, 2016 3:24 pm

Yeah I gather... but it's just getting old in a way. Unless Mycroft did it as a "Hah, I can do it better than you, brother mine"