Thank you for sharing that find Vhanja! I feel like that scene has a lot to say. 
And how lovely to see how John has Sherlock's back! 

I have been pondering too, if Sherlock used that way of describing Lady Carmichael to actually talk about Mary... Very interesting! 
 

ancientsgate wrote:

SusiGo wrote:

Ancientsgate: I think it would be quite unprofessional not to know at this point where the story is going. And it would also be unprofessional to base your writing decision on how much you like a character. This also applies to the argument that Mark would never let Mycroft die because he loves to play him. 
That said they are in the lucky positions that people can return in flashbacks or Sherlock's mind, i.e. having their cake and eat it. 

I'm certainly not questioning their professionalism, not sure where you got that idea. It takes all kinds to be creative in this big ol' world, and no one would ever suggest that Sherlock's writers and creative staff haven't been highly successful at what they all do. Everything is (I'm sure) on the up and up.

You said, I think it would be quite unprofessional not to know at this point where the story is going. So you think that all the creative decisions for S4 and perhaps into S5 have already been locked and loaded?  It is possible, but I find that doubtful, since when writing fiction, it's usual and customary to allow the story to ebb and flow as a work in progress, be subjected to extensive editing in committee, and only towards the very end of the process be completely written in stone.

Yes, they can always bring back Andrew's Moriarty as flashbacks or in a mind palace scenario. But people do hate to stay dead in Sherlock, so....  I will not be surprised, however they decide to keep Andrew in the cast and use his character--  the options available to the writers are many and varied, which must be exciting for them.
 

I remember Mark and Steven talking about a rainy day when they sat down and drafted the basics for series 4 and 5. This would include things like who is dead and who is going to die, I suppose. The actors and actresses have also mentioned that they know where they are going, at least with series 4. Of course they may change details and will do so, but I cannot believe that at this point they do not know if Moriarty is dead or not. This is a very big thing. I personally still believe he is dead and TAB has not changed anything about this, quite the contrary. 

Harriet wrote:

Example: Harry Potter. The story line for all 7 books had been ready even before book 1 was published.
 

She actually had the end written down by the time about half the books were out. That didn't mean she didn't have to edit along the way.And write the book themselves.

I think it's the same with Sherlock. Moftiss know the gist of where this is going, but not the details.

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Swanpride wrote:

Which is a good thing...it is always a problem when writers don't think ahead.

And it can also be a problem when an author locks himself into a certain outline and won't let the creative juices flow along the way.  But again, different methods work for different very successful writers.
 

kgreen20 wrote:

I'm afraid I've missed the episode.  Any chance someone'll post it to YouTube?
 

Um, try BBC iPlayer. It should still be showing for a fair while yet.

Oh, that's awesome! Then perhaps it's time relevant.

Then again, is it something Holmes would do?

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Now this is, uh, - remarkable! 

The Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Centre - Home of the Edinburgh Association of Spiritualists
http://www.arthurconandoylecentre.com

Of course they won't and I wouldn't want that either. But now the yoga position seems not all surprising to me, after this little research. It seems something that ACD might Sherlock do.

ancientsgate wrote:

Harriet wrote:

ancientsgate wrote:

You said, I think it would be quite unprofessional not to know at this point where the story is going. So you think that all the creative decisions for S4 and perhaps into S5 have already been locked and loaded?  It is possible, but I find that doubtful, since when writing fiction, it's usual and customary to allow the story to ebb and flow as a work in progress, be subjected to extensive editing in committee, and only towards the very end of the process be completely written in stone.
 

Example: Harry Potter. The story line for all 7 books had been ready even before book 1 was published.
 

There are all kinds of methods for writing fiction, and that just happened to be JK Rowling's.  Not every author has a complete and working outline before they even start writing, but that method (obviously) worked for her!

I don't go to tumblr, don't pay any attention to what Mofftiss et al say in interviews or at cons, so I don't know anything about their methods, planning, or anything. But I would, as I said, never question their professionalism.
 

Steven said several times that one'd be quite a bad writer if they didn't know where they where going. There's a video on the forum in which Moffat answers questions on writing, if I'm not mistaken.

So yes, I assume that Mofftiss know roughly where they're heading but not the finer details.

Mark and Steven have spoken about some of ACD's more unfortunate interests.