The latter would certainly be a twist.

Really?
Mine is to get the boys back together in Baker Street.
But I somehow don't think Mary will go out a villain...rather negates the big reveal in S3. 

besleybean wrote:

I think it'll be the former.

I think so, too.  I don't believe that Mary will turn out to be a villainess (although she is certainly capable of being dangerous, as Sherlock found out!).

 

mrshouse wrote:

http://archipelagoarchaea.tumblr.com/post/92372390998/the-lie-of-his-last-vow
We've often discussed if anything of Mary's back story in HLV is to be taken at face value or not. I found this interesting meta.

 
I've been on the fence about Mary, giving her the benefit of the doubt, but this brilliant meta has opened my eyes. It makes so much narrative sense to me now. "Schrödinger's character" is a perfect title for Mary; I think Stephen and Mark are about to open the box in S4 and we will finally find out who Mary truly is.

Very interesting meta. Several points there that I agree with as well. (And, yes, YES, I am SO happy to read someone else who reacted to the same as I did - the victim-blaming of John in HLV!). 

And I will have to say, it did strike me as a bit off that Mary knew what affect Sherlock's death had on John ("Do you realise what you've done?"), and yet she's still able to do the same to the man she supposed to love. And not even apologize for it. 

Only thing I hope is that if Sherlock was lying and has a bigger plan with Mary, then John knows and is in on it. Sherlock has kept John out of his plans before, and that didn't end well. I hope he has learned and won't do that again. Especially not something that involves John so closely as Mary. (After all, it's his wife and - presumably - his child, so he should have a say in this).

Oh, all this talk really gets me excited for the next season. And my wishes seem to be the same as besleybean: I want the boys back in Baker Street and I kind of really liked the idea in the special of Mary working for Mycroft. 

I think it depends very much on whether we know the whole truth about Mycroft. I think not.

I find the meta mentioned regarding Mary's future in the show very insightful.

besleybean wrote:

AND possibly because Sherlock and John have both forgiven her.

Somehow I don't think that Mycroft would care about that.

besleybean wrote:

I suppose it does depend how many of his agents she's wiped out!

Can you explain that? I don't understand, tbh. Do you mean he would forgive her shooting Sherlock but not killing his minions? Or do you imply he is afraid of her?