Thank you for your additions. 

I never thought about why Sherlock does not sit down. Excellent observation. 

John's outfit in the last takes may be forced by the way they chose to shoot them. The scene's made with the same camera and in one take, and the actors keep moving around the flat as the camera goes round. Then I think they chose several layers of clothes (coat, cardigan, shirt) for John to be able to keep taking them off gradually as the scene evolves, so the viewers can think events happen in different days/hours...

But I agree this is very cute and I positively think that John and Rosie moved to 221B.

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ewige wrote:

If they had time to put (and subsequently remove) a Viking there, they'd have taken time for John to change if necessary But it wasn't necessary, that's the point He is there because this is where he belongs.

Yes, I totally agree. 
I was just trying to explain why those clothes, not justifying that John isn't living in Baker Street. He is! 

Here is a wonderful post appreciating Moffat (and Gatiss) as a writer and drawing from the Doctor Who experience. Loved it. 

http://moffat-rocks.tumblr.com/post/156372906079/a-word-to-the-sherlock-fandom
 

Last edited by SusiGo (January 31, 2017 11:53 am)

Thank you so much for the link, Susi! I've been really sad about the fandom's reactions and such posts make me believe in people again.

Funnily enough, I care about good writing more than about any representation on TV *ducks and runs*

But I've even come to terms with Mary's unrealistic aquarium jump (it was Sherlock's POV, people!) so nobody can convince me anymore that s4 was full of bad writing.

Also, "Sherlock is a clueless puppy"! :D

Hi guys!
A bit (or a lot) OT, but I just joined the forum and this thread was my priority.
I started watching Sherlock in 2014 and at first Johnlock theories seemed extremely weird an far fetched to me. But I started reading more careful analysis and well, today I just don't understand how some people disagree with Johnlock. It's almost ridiculously clear 
That said, I wanted to thank everyone who has put effort and love in Johnlock, because you helped me discover and enjoy one of the greatest love stories ever told
I feel pretty satisfied with S4 ending regarding Johnlock, and actually think the subtlety keeps the magic (and the puzzle) alive. Because that's how I perceive this: as a huge emotional puzzle that is there if you want to observe.
Anyway, just wanted to say hi  Back to S4 discussion and Parentlock goodies

Hi again! In the into thread I was like, Ooh, nice signature!

That's hilarious  Love the Cluedo rounds.

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http://three-patch.com/2017/02/01/episode-60

Love the picture and the crazy discussion of all the ships post S4
Dominatrix Lady Smallwood

Elemental wrote something, almost a week ago, and I wanted to answer, But this was a hectic week, and I did not have enough time for it. So I am writing now.

Elemental wrote, the Idea of Johnlock seemed to her "extremely weird and far fetched" at first sight, and now, after further discussion about it, "it's almost ridiculously clear."

It was a bit different for me. For me, the idea was not "far fetched", but, strictly speaking, it existed long before the series was made. For me it was in the original stories of ACD. It seemed to me that it was perceptible, by the whole situation. Of course it was never talked about. That would have been unthinkable at the time when the original stories were written. And when I learned about the new "Sherlock" series for the first time, and that this series would play in the 21th century, my first thought was another (I was curious about the encounter of Sherlock Holmes with computer technology), but I also thought whether they would make the love story more clear which could not be shown in 19th century.

At first it became no love story, seemingly. Of course there were allusions that everybody seemed to suspect it (and that was quite funny), and there were a lot of nonverbal hints. But it didn't become a "real" love story. And I was a bit disappointed, because I thought it was an unused chance. But meanwhile I think a bit different about it.

I am glad that it is not a "real" love story from the beginning, because that would have destroyed the love story. That sounds a bit crazy, I know. Therefore it has to be explained. Imagine it would have been a quite normal love story from the beginning. It would have been a sensation, of course, and some people would have cheered, and some people would have found it terrible. People would have talked about nothing else. Nobody would have been interested in the development of the characters. And it is just this development which makes the story so exciting: the slow development of these two characters into the characters ACD described. Meanwhile they have arrived there, I think.

We see the development of these two characters, not everyone for himself, but in connection, and it is a development towards each other. We see the growing of an extremely close and meaningful relationship. Of course it is a love story, and it is really great. But it is not (or not mainly) about a sexual relationship. It can be (or become) a sexual relationship, too, and I would like to see it. But that is not the "heart" of the story. The "heart" is the wonderfully slow told story, how between two people who are absolutely not the type for such a thing (if you consider their past), a very close and intimate relationship develops. And that's really beautiful.